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A tale of two spinners.....

Post by embee on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:31

Overs 95 to 116
Maidens 14 to 9
Runs 326 to 400
Wickets 5 to 4
Average 65.2 to 100
Runs per Over 3.43 to 3.44
Balls per wicket 114 to 174

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by horace on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:34

both are ordinairy....the best thing to come out of this series is everyone (even the NSP) must realist that magoo is not up to it

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by please don't yell on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:36

Exact sort of pitches warne took wickets on year after year as well.

He just had that ability to make something happen on dead tracks that would turn a match on it's head.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by Josh Carney on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:44

Let us not forget that Warne had McGrath at the other end.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by skully on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:45

Aye pdy, Warnie would've taken a bag of 4-fer-not-manys on those two decks, such was his control and variation.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by please don't yell on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:47

Macgill had quicks taking wicket in this match as well.

Also warne's best ever series was when mcgrath went down injured in 05 and he was a one man show.

Without mcgrath we would have won less games but warne would have probably taken a lot more wickets as he would have had too.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by Josh Carney on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:48

Not sure about that I would say that the leash McGrath had from one end often helped Warne grab some cheap wickets.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by please don't yell on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:52

I just don't buy that, on pitches like this warne was able to dismiss well set batsmen through skill, it's not like they were so frustrated by mcgrath they just started smashing warne long hops to the fielders.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by horace on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:57

lucky for warney he rarely had magoo at the other end

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by embee on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:05

Josh Carney wrote:Not sure about that I would say that the leash McGrath had from one end often helped Warne grab some cheap wickets.


MacGill bowled absolute shit yesterday ....fulltossathon ...the bowlers at the other end were keeping it tight and it didnt make any difference ...The Nein commentators were making injury excuses for him this morning

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by skully on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:05

This article (no I'm not a Crash fan) sums things up nicely. Warnie better than Chuck

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by tac on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:14

skully wrote:This article (no I'm not a Crash fan) sums things up nicely. Warnie better than Chuck


Yep, that's been my take all along. Compare them in SL and Aus and Warne is the winner by a long way.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by Josh Carney on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:15

Skully I wasn't making excuses for McGill. Warne had the ability to extract wickets from seemingly flattish tracks which McGill does not seem to pocess. Simply pointing out that bowlers hunting in pairs normally tend to help each other.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by please don't yell on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:22

No matter how much the seamer at the other end helps you have to have a special talent to take bags of wickets as a spinner on australian tracks.

that's what puts warne into a class all his own.

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Re: A tale of two spinners.....

Post by The One on Mon 19 Nov 2007, 18:34

i would rather my team face warne than murali. both great bowlers but murali did seem like dominating indian batsmen. warne not really, he seemed to pick up a few wickets if the quicks did their job

one can only imagine how dangerous murali could have been with the kind of back-up warne had. i guess it depends on who you ask the question to

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