RBS Six Nations 2010

no, fair enough, smerky . . even woody respects the idea of getting laid . . .

What? No need to know Woody's personal life...

sometimes forumming with you is like trying to talk to one of those idiot children what preserve their own shit in jars . . .

Sometimes....why don't you just say it as you see it.

yes, smerky, only sometimes . . . .


. . . . other times it's even worse . ..

tac wrote:The new rules are pretty shitty as far as I can see . . .has ruined forward play

And that's always been the issue. If some want it to be more like league, go and watch league. I prefer union and want to watch union.

Yesterday's England Scotland game was a horrendous, appalling mess. That is all.

Shoeshine wrote:Yesterday's England Scotland game was a horrendous, appalling mess. That is all.

Is S14 available through Sky?

Mick Sawyer wrote:

Shoeshine wrote:Yesterday's England Scotland game was a horrendous, appalling mess. That is all.

Is S14 available through Sky?

Yep.

Shoeshine wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:

Shoeshine wrote:Yesterday's England Scotland game was a horrendous, appalling mess. That is all.

Is S14 available through Sky?

Yep.

Good. I hope that the good folk of the UK get to see referees reaffirming the emphasis on the tackler to release the ball carrier and then clear the tackle area or get to their feet before again taking part in the contest. Nice positive outcomes, far easier to watch than the kick it away stuff we've seen in recent times when coaches were afraid of being pinged for not releasing when, in fact, the ball carrier had little opportunity due to the obstruction of the defenders.

Mick Sawyer wrote:

Shoeshine wrote:

Mick Sawyer wrote:

Shoeshine wrote:Yesterday's England Scotland game was a horrendous, appalling mess. That is all.

Is S14 available through Sky?

Yep.

Good. I hope that the good folk of the UK get to see referees reaffirming the emphasis on the tackler to release the ball carrier and then clear the tackle area or get to their feet before again taking part in the contest. Nice positive outcomes, far easier to watch than the kick it away stuff we've seen in recent times when coaches were afraid of being pinged for not releasing when, in fact, the ball carrier had little opportunity due to the obstruction of the defenders.

There's been no such emphasis from the SH referees in the Six Nations - just the opposite in fact, a continual pinging of attackers for not releasing the ball when the defender has been all over him. This is supposed to be the new interpretation to fix a problem the IRB themselves created, but it doesn't seem to be happening. In any case, you seem to be working from a position that the Super 14 is the benchmark for the game. It isn't.

Can't we just get rid off the new rules? But, shoey, you need to give some credit to the S14 teams for playing the game in with a positive attitude . . . unlike some of the appalling stuff that's been on display in the 6Ns

Yes, to an extent. But you have what you have always had in terms of a fundamental difference between (say) the Australian teams and those here: Australian teams rarely have to play when it's freezing cold and pissing down, meaning it ends with two packs grunting back and forth whilst asking the fly half to bang over the resulting penalties. NZ gets its fair share of that, of course, but then it's their national sport and they're obsessed with the game.

I do accept and agree that for some reason either the coaches or the referees or some combination of the two over here have led to teams in the Guinness Premiership deciding to just hoof the ball down the other end rather too much, and I'm not sure why (more specifically, I'm not sure why we're cursed with it here more than elsewhere). The French don't do that. Indeed it's probably the case right now that the perceived gap between north and south is at least partly to do with England's utter ineptness - France look a decent side.

But equally, a lot of Super 14 rugby is just embarrassingly awful, consisting of sides simply not bothering to tackle or defend properly.

I think you'll find much of that poor defence is in the earlier games when it's still bloody hot . . .

The weather is never granted as a reason for forward orientated play up here though, is it? Even when the ball is sopping and fingers are dropping off from cold. Sauce for the goose, taccy!