Super 14 Rugby 2010

horace wrote:true Mick ...but the tahs always over promise and under deliver...the brumbies remain our most successful franchise in S14...the banjos have been perpetually mediocre ...but i spose they at least were not an embarassment this season

As an ever optimistic (i.e.paying) member of the Reds I've lived your observations. Bit like Aus cricket in the 80's.

The biggest travesty has been Ballymore's fumbling of the production line of talent. Talent that was fostered and groomed by the priceless toil of the thousands of volunteers at (amateur) club level who are entitled to be rewarded with the pick of the talent staying Red rather then generating revenue for other franchises.

Hey, you think you have problems. I am a Lions supporter.

despite being possibly the biggest Rugby Union in the world, we continue to underperform

yet another free kick

taipan wrote:Hey, you think you have problems. I am a Lions supporter.

despite being possibly the biggest Rugby Union in the world, we continue to underperform

What is it with them taips?

Our mob's problem is they are broke and tried to save money on trivial things like a coach. We have Trade Practices Act problems with concepts such as transfer fees (restraint of trade) but the Reds experience must point to a screaming need for the union that grows a player to be rewarded when they are cherry picked by the likes of the Force, Brumbies and, potentially, the new Victorian outfit.

Mick Sawyer wrote:

taipan wrote:Hey, you think you have problems. I am a Lions supporter.

despite being possibly the biggest Rugby Union in the world, we continue to underperform

What is it with them taips?

Our mob's problem is they are broke and tried to save money on trivial things like a coach. We have Trade Practices Act problems with concepts such as transfer fees (restraint of trade) but the Reds experience must point to a screaming need for the union that grows a player to be rewarded when they are cherry picked by the likes of the Force, Brumbies and, potentially, the new Victorian outfit.

We have a similar problem here. The players break contracts willy-nilly. The Union protests to SARU, it goes to arbitration, and we get shafted. it is not helped by other Franchises (natably the Sharks) conniving at that.

Can't wait to see what happens when a player is not paid by virtue of underperforming. Lats see how the contracts are viewed then.

The players break contracts willy-nilly

Wasn't aware of that one. It surprises me that old money and power haven't sorted it.

Here, John O'Neil would have 'em in the Supreme Court before they arrived in their new city. They'd never pick up anothjer top up cent from the ARU.

The Sharks announced the signing of Springbok Sevens and, former, Cheetahs backline player Lionel Mapoe late on Thursday.

The rumours , which started late on Wednesday, that Mapoe was in Durban and had signed for the Sharks despite the Cheetahs believing that they had a valid contract with Mapoe until October 2011 were confirmed on Thursday when the Sharks sent out an official press release announcing his capture.

Sharks press release

"Sharks CEO, Brian van Zyl, has confirmed that The Sharks have signed up Cheetah’s winger Lionel Mapoe. Following a contractual dispute Lionel terminated his contract with
the Free State Cheetahs on the 9th March 2010 and has requested a clearance certificate from them. He has in the meantime concluded a 2 ½ year contract with The Sharks and
will start training with the squad next week."

The Cheetahs have yet to make an official complaint nor agree to the release of Mapoe who joins the likes of Jaque Fourie, Willem Alberts, Louis Ludik and JP Joubert who have left their unions while their employers still thought they had contracts with the players.

http://www.sarugby.com/news/News/article/sid=13631.html

taipan wrote:The Sharks announced the signing of Springbok Sevens and, former, Cheetahs backline player Lionel Mapoe late on Thursday.

The rumours , which started late on Wednesday, that Mapoe was in Durban and had signed for the Sharks despite the Cheetahs believing that they had a valid contract with Mapoe until October 2011 were confirmed on Thursday when the Sharks sent out an official press release announcing his capture.

Sharks press release

"Sharks CEO, Brian van Zyl, has confirmed that The Sharks have signed up Cheetah’s winger Lionel Mapoe. Following a contractual dispute Lionel terminated his contract with
the Free State Cheetahs on the 9th March 2010 and has requested a clearance certificate from them. He has in the meantime concluded a 2 ½ year contract with The Sharks and
will start training with the squad next week."

The Cheetahs have yet to make an official complaint nor agree to the release of Mapoe who joins the likes of Jaque Fourie, Willem Alberts, Louis Ludik and JP Joubert who have left their unions while their employers still thought they had contracts with the players.

http://www.sarugby.com/news/News/article/sid=13631.html

Without law there is chaos. That's a slippery pole.

So the final is today with the best two teams rightfully contesting it.

taipan wrote:... the best two teams rightfully contesting it.......

aye

And congrats to the Bulls.

skully wrote:And congrats to the Bulls.

aye to that too. I'd love to believe the japies are peaking a touch early but I'm reserving judgement. In spite of ugly manner in which the nation is eating itself their rugby continues to prosper. Good on 'em.