England qualification change?

Shoeshine wrote:Quote from Geoff Miller:

"In two or three years time I might put a kind of a block on it as such."

Yeah, that'll happen. As all the English-born young batsmen languish in the mid 20s and some Saffie ex-pat tops the averages @ 85 having expressed a desire to play for England...

Will it bollocks. Miller's job's on the line if England don't win matches.

In any case, where's the cut off point in his "in two or three years time" plan? Pakistan-born Azeem Rafiq will be in his early twenties by then, having represented all the England age-groups. If he hasn't been picked for the senior team in "two or three years time" is it all over for him? Or will a special case be made?

Will it bollocks. It's all bollocks. It'll never be mentioned again.

The ICC sets qualification rules, surely? Of course each country's own board can have its own policy on selecting overseas-born players, but not sure if they could get away with having strict rules that are different to those of the ICC.

It makes sense to look at each case on its own merits - is the player good enough, committed enough, do the benefits of picking him outweigh the drawbacks?

England's rules are tighter than the ICC's standard eligibility requirements. The reason for this is because South Africa would start to cry if they weren't.

beamer wrote:The ICC sets qualification rules, surely? Of course each country's own board can have its own policy on selecting overseas-born players, but not sure if they could get away with having strict rules that are different to those of the ICC.

It makes sense to look at each case on its own merits - is the player good enough, committed enough, do the benefits of picking him outweigh the drawbacks?

AKA: will it bollocks.

Shoeshine wrote:England's rules are tighter than the ICC's standard eligibility requirements. The reason for this is because South Africa would start to cry if they weren't.

So the poms steal our players and then try to portray us as the bad guys. Bunch of farking hypocrites.

No, England don't steal them. They come there willingly, seeking greater opportunities. Sorry.....

Henry wrote:No, England don't steal them. They come there willingly, seeking greater opportunities. Sorry.....

Or the fact that aren't good enough for SA.

Can anyone explain why the English development plan is so shite.

taipan wrote:

Henry wrote:No, England don't steal them. They come there willingly, seeking greater opportunities. Sorry.....

Or the fact that aren't good enough for SA.

Can anyone explain why the English development plan is so shite.

And yet Pietersen would walk into the current Saffie top six, and Trott would be there or there abouts as well. And you'll really be wishing you had Kieswetter when Boucher hangs up his gloves in 2 years.

Trott would be nowhere near the SA team. Most of the poms here are calling for KP to be dropped. The word from posters from WP is that Kieswetter is an arrogant qunt who rates himself.

Believe me, we have plenty good keepers coming through the junior ranks.

Yeah yeah whatever.

1-0.

Can't argue with points like that

taipan wrote:The word from posters from WP is that Kieswetter is an arrogant qunt who rates himself.

So he and KP will hold watching themselves in the mirror competitions?

And if Pietersen and Trott had scored all the runs for England this series, you'd be more than happy to say how we only won because of the South Africans in the England side. Can't have it both ways.

You asked why the England development system is so shit, but surely only a shit development system would allow Kevin Pietersen to escape its grasp without any kind of effort to hold on to him, because they couldn't even see the natural ability and potential he had.

And since when did being an arrogant cock who loves himself rule a player out of South African selection *cough* Graeme Smith *Cough*

Henry wrote:And if Pietersen and Trott had scored all the runs for England this series, you'd be more than happy to say how we only won because of the South Africans in the England side. Can't have it both ways.

You asked why the England development system is so shit, but surely only a shit development system would allow Kevin Pietersen to escape its grasp without any kind of effort to hold on to him, because they couldn't even see the natural ability and potential he had.

Where have I ever played the nationality card?

Peterson is a special case. A late developer as a batsman. If you knew your cricket you would realise that he was hawking himself around as a off-spinner before he threw a hissy fit and farked off.

How old was KP when he left SA?