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Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Shoeshine on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 03:04

So says Spanky.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/dont-be-fooled-this-australian-side-would-struggle-to-win-the-ashes-20100108-lyu1.html

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*Apart from Spanky likes boys etc which doesn't require debate. Wink

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by embee on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 03:27

If they play like they did in Sydney ...yes

Put Katich and Hilfenhaus back in the team ...not get any "unusual" weather conditions ...get North or someone else in form at number 6 ...they'll get the Ashes back easily

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 03:35

Australia are at least 30% better when they play at home. Look at the record of their batsman. Most of them average around 10 runs more at home compared to away.

At this stage I reckon it will be a 2-2 series draw. Lots of cricket to be played bwtween then and now, though.....

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Shoeshine on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 03:41

embee wrote:...they'll get the Ashes back easily


Shocked

Hmm, do keep thinking that.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 03:43

embee wrote:If they play like they did in Sydney ...yes

Put Katich and Hilfenhaus back in the team ...not get any "unusual" weather conditions ...get North or someone else in form at number 6 ...they'll get the Ashes back easily


Good to see the woofing kicking off nice and early.....

Last time you guys still had Mcgrath and Warne, remember.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by footwork on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 09:34

Shoeshine wrote:
embee wrote:...they'll get the Ashes back easily




Hmm, do keep thinking that.


It's a shoey-in...

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Dello on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 09:47

Henry wrote:

At this stage I reckon it will be a 2-2 series draw.


I don't see how England will take 20 wickets on the Aussie flat-beds in the blazing sunshine with their current four-man attack.

If they're lucky they might manage it once.

No way will England win two games.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 09:55

I reckon we can win at Perth and Sydney. They'll probably take the Brisbane test and Melbourne test. Adelaide will be a draw.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Shoeshine on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:08

Dello wrote:
Henry wrote:

At this stage I reckon it will be a 2-2 series draw.


I don't see how England will take 20 wickets on the Aussie flat-beds in the blazing sunshine with their current four-man attack.

If they're lucky they might manage it once.

No way will England win two games.


I'm not sure I see the Australian attack as any more capable than England's though. Less so actually.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:20

Yeah, man for man, Johnson is probably just ahead of Broad at this stage, but Anderson is ahead of Hilfenhaus imo, and Onions is probabably better than Siddle. Swann is a better spinner than Hauritz.

The batting is probably about equal as well, with Ponting seemingly in decline now.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:26

Ok, man for man-

Strauss=Katich
Cook=Watson
Ponting>Trott
Pietersen>Hussey
Collingwood=Clarke
Bell=North
Prior>Haddin
Johnson>Broad
Swann>Hauritz
Anderson>Hilfenhaus
Onions>Siddle

About right?

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by JKLever on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:27

It's got 5-0 written all over it.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:29

JKLever wrote:It's got 5-0 written all over it.


Settle down Lever! I know England are improving, but I wouldn't go that far! Wink

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by JKLever on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:32

I really don't know what to predict - how can you when we've had our arses spanked 4-1 & 5-0 on our last 2 visits

Much like 2005 we've got to aim to be competitive again down under before getting delusions of grandeur. And we haven't been that since 1987.

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Re: Australia will struggle to win the Ashes

Post by Henry on Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:36

They've got no one to scare us though. In 06-07 they still had Mcgrath and Warne eager to sign off with one last triumph against the Poms. They don't even have Stuart Clark anymore. I reckon on paper, Johnson is the only genuine threat they provide now that Ponting isn't quite what he used to be.

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