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I've never actually tried to work out how the ICC rankings work but from Wiki:
"Test championship calculations
The calculations for the table are performed as follows:
* Each team scores points based on the results of their matches.
* Each team's rating is equal to its total points scored divided by the total matches and series played. (A series must include at least two Tests).
* A series only counts if played in the last three years.
* Series played in the first two years of the three-year limit count half; essentially, recent matches are given more weight.
* To determine a team's rating after a particular series:
o Find the series result
+ Award 1 point to a team for each win
+ Award 1/2 point to a team for each draw
+ Award 1 bonus point to the team winning the series
+ Award 1/2 bonus point to each team if the series is drawn
o Convert the series result to actual ratings points
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is less than 40 points, then the ratings points for each team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (50 points MORE than the opponent's rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (50 points LESS than the opponent's rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the stronger team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (10 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (90 points LESS than the team's own rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the weaker team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (90 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (10 points LESS than the team's own rating)
o Add the ratings points scored by the team to the total ratings points already scored (in previous matches, as reflected by the Table)
o Update the number of matches played by the team through adding one more than the number of games in the series (a two test match series will result in the match count getting incremented by three)
o Divide the new rating points with the updated number of matches to get the final rating.
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What?
"Test championship calculations
The calculations for the table are performed as follows:
* Each team scores points based on the results of their matches.
* Each team's rating is equal to its total points scored divided by the total matches and series played. (A series must include at least two Tests).
* A series only counts if played in the last three years.
* Series played in the first two years of the three-year limit count half; essentially, recent matches are given more weight.
* To determine a team's rating after a particular series:
o Find the series result
+ Award 1 point to a team for each win
+ Award 1/2 point to a team for each draw
+ Award 1 bonus point to the team winning the series
+ Award 1/2 bonus point to each team if the series is drawn
o Convert the series result to actual ratings points
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is less than 40 points, then the ratings points for each team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (50 points MORE than the opponent's rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (50 points LESS than the opponent's rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the stronger team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (10 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (90 points LESS than the team's own rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the weaker team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (90 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (10 points LESS than the team's own rating)
o Add the ratings points scored by the team to the total ratings points already scored (in previous matches, as reflected by the Table)
o Update the number of matches played by the team through adding one more than the number of games in the series (a two test match series will result in the match count getting incremented by three)
o Divide the new rating points with the updated number of matches to get the final rating.
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You should try D/L or NRR

taipan
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Did Messrs Duckworth and Lewis have a hand in devising that? 

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Maybe the Assassin can put the rules laid out in the first post into some layman's terms. WTF?

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skully wrote:Maybe the Assassin can put the rules laid out in the first post into some layman's terms. WTF?
1 go to the pub
2 Have a dozen beers
3 Throw darts at board
4 record score
Karti. add 5000 points to India and deduct 900 points from Pakistan
6 resume drinking
7 collect cheque for devising brilliant system

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According to the ICC wankings predictor, if Australia secures a 3-0 win over Pakistan in the current series, Australia's rating goes up by 2. Please note, this is a completely different thing from receiving 2 points. Then, if India seures a 2-0 win in its series against Bangladesh, India's rating goes up by 7.
Time for the Chewbacca defence.
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_zone/test_predictor.php
Time for the Chewbacca defence.
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_zone/test_predictor.php
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* Each team's rating is equal to its total points scored divided by the total matches and series played. (A series must include at least two Tests).
this means BCCI would have played a fair number of tests of the past three years to deserve the number. 1
puts paid to silly commentary by some on this forum that it was all a fluke or somewart.
this part is the actual rating.
o Convert the series result to actual ratings points
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is less than 40 points,
then the ratings points for each team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (50 points MORE than the opponent's rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (50 points LESS than the opponent's rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the stronger team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (10 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (90 points LESS than the team's own rating)
+ If the gap between the ratings of the two teams at the commencement of the series is more than or equal to 40 points, then the ratings points for the weaker team equals:
# (The team's own series result) multiplied by (90 points MORE than the team's own rating) PLUS
# (The opponent's series result) multiplied by (10 points LESS than the team's own rating)
o Add the ratings points scored by the team to the total ratings points already scored (in previous matches, as reflected by the Table)
o Update the number of matches played by the team through adding one more than the number of games in the series (a two test match series will result in the match count getting incremented by three)
o Divide the new rating points with the updated number of matches to get the final rating.
that seems pretty straightforward with just three cases being presumed.
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And then, filling in all predicted results, in the order specified by the predictor, An Aus 2-0 win over NZ would see Australia's rating go up by ...
wait for this...
no, really, it's a good one...
One!
wait for this...
no, really, it's a good one...
One!
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Zat wrote:According to the ICC wankings predictor, if Australia secures a 3-0 win over Pakistan in the current series, Australia's rating goes up by 2. Please note, this is a completely different thing from receiving 2 points. Then, if India seures a 2-0 win in its series against Bangladesh, India's rating goes up by 7.
Time for the Chewbacca defence.
http://icc-cricket.yahoo.net/match_zone/test_predictor.php
So the system was devised by the BCCI then? That would explain why Banindia only played 6 Tests in 2009, thereby lowering their number of matches. Points divided by lower number of matches equals higher rating.
Sad farks.

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But bucky seems to understand it. Does that mean he's like the Subi Potter who lives under the stairs at Karti's place?
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but their points from previous two years had to compensate for the higher rating.
Let's say BCCI won heavily in 07 and 08 and played just few matches in 09, it automatically strengthens its position in current year.
Cruel but fair.
BCCI won on terms set by ICC.
Let's say BCCI won heavily in 07 and 08 and played just few matches in 09, it automatically strengthens its position in current year.
Cruel but fair.
BCCI won on terms set by ICC.
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buckSH wrote:but their points from previous two years had to compensate for the higher rating.
Let's say BCCI won heavily in 07 and 08 and played just few matches in 09, it automatically strengthens its position in current year.
Cruel but fair.
BCCI won on terms set by BCCI.

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the only funny thing in the system posted above is:
this must be because most series are played in odd numbers and they need even number figures to get a clean division.
o Update the number of matches played by the team through adding one more than the number of games in the series (a two test match series will result in the match count getting incremented by three)
this must be because most series are played in odd numbers and they need even number figures to get a clean division.
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So when Australia was on top of the old rankings, most of us thought it was fair enough, but the system was dodgy.
Then when South Africa went to the top briefly, most of us thought it was a statistical anomaly that showed the system was dodgy.
So the ICC re-jigged the system about then, didn't they?
To something that means just about nothing and seemingly conjures up numbers in much the same way suggested by embee a few posts up.
Then when South Africa went to the top briefly, most of us thought it was a statistical anomaly that showed the system was dodgy.
So the ICC re-jigged the system about then, didn't they?
To something that means just about nothing and seemingly conjures up numbers in much the same way suggested by embee a few posts up.
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