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New Year Honours

Post by Allan D on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 13:51

Comes out a day early as there are no papers tomorrow. Bit short on cricketers, as Broon isn't a fan and there are few Labour-supporting luvvies in the cricketing community. However there is an M.B.E., the lowest form of plant life in the Honours Kingdom (since they abolished the B.E.M.), for Claire Taylor, the first female Wisden Cricketer of the Year. Well done, Claire! applause

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Post by Zat on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 14:03

Still no knighthood for Warney for services to English cricket? What a crock of shit.

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Post by Allan D on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 16:27

Zat wrote:Still no knighthood for Warney for services to English cricket? What a crock of shit.


Has to be awarded by Krudd or the State Premier of Victoria and Whitlam abolished recommendations for British honours for Australian citizens in the 1970s.

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Post by horace on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 16:34

"Has to be awarded by Krudd or the State Premier of Victoria and Whitlam abolished recommendations for British honours for Australian citizens in the 1970s."

...thankfully Whitlam did the right thing ... but the local toffs never forgave him...two of their number, Sir Garfield Barwick and Sir John Cur orchestrated the coup

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by Henry on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 17:20

Andrew Strauss should surely get an MBE?

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Post by Henry on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 17:20

Oh you can only be awarded it once, right?

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by taipan on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 19:08

The Englsih team got nothing for winning the Ashes?

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by Bradman on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 19:38

Allan D wrote:
Zat wrote:Still no knighthood for Warney for services to English cricket? What a crock of shit.


Has to be awarded by Krudd or the State Premier of Victoria and Whitlam abolished recommendations for British honours for Australian citizens in the 1970s.


He didn't actually because he couldn,t. He refused to refer knighthoods but state govts could do as they pleased. Hawke outlawed it via the Australia Act though it was still within the gifts of state govts to recommend peerages.

If you'd been there on the last day of the Fitzgerald Inquiry you would have seen a QC rip an ex state Premier apart with the bidding of the Palace because he'd been put up for a peerage for services to the Westminster System.

When it was quite obvious the dickhead in question couldn't spell westminster, let alone define the system, all thoughts of a peerage were dropped.

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Post by Henry on Wed 30 Dec 2009, 19:41

I would have thought Swanny!!!!!!!! and Broady would have been worthy recipients of MBE's, seeing as they didn't win them in 2005 like most of the other guys in the team, and they played key roles in the ashes win this year.

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by Allan D on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 01:05

horace wrote:"Has to be awarded by Krudd or the State Premier of Victoria and Whitlam abolished recommendations for British honours for Australian citizens in the 1970s."

...thankfully Whitlam did the right thing ... but the local toffs never forgave him...two of their number, Sir Garfield Barwick and Sir John Cur orchestrated the coup


Wasn't Kerr appointed by Whitlam? Didn't Whitlam point out to Kerr whilst he was PM that he had the power to dismiss federal ministers conferred on him by the Australian constitution when he wanted to get rid of ministers who wouldn't resign? Didn't Whitlam ask to call Buckingham Palace when Kerr gave him the bum's rush?

Had he got through the reply, on the best constitutional authority, would have been "nothing to do with us, guv, you sort yourselves out." Her Maj appoints all Commonwealth GGs on the advice of the Prime Minister of the country concerned with no input from London and thenceforth plays no further role.

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Post by Allan D on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 01:07

taipan wrote:The Englsih team got nothing for winning the Ashes?


The Ashes?

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Post by Allan D on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 01:18

Henry wrote:Oh you can only be awarded it once, right?


You can be upgraded through from MBE to OBE to CBE to KBE. However if you are, you must return the lesser order. This applies to all the other orders of chivalry too such as the Order of the Bath (military) Royal Victorian Order (Royal Household) and the wonderfully named Order of St Michael and St George (Diplomatic Service).

The lowest rank is Commander (C.M.G.) usually reserved for embassy second secretaries. The next is Knight Commander (k.C.M.G.) for ambassadors to small and middle-ranking postings whilst the highest rank is Grand Knight Cross (G.C.M.G.) usually reserved for ambassadors to really important postings (UN, Washington, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Bejing etc.). Of course, the Diplomatic Service being what it is, what these titles actually stand for is as follows:

C.M.G. - Call Me God
K.C.M.G. - Kindly Call Me God
G.C.M.G. - God Calls Me God.


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Re: New Year Honours

Post by JGK on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 03:03

Any footballers on the list?

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by Allan D on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 04:01

JGK wrote:Any footballers on the list?


Jimmy Armfield, who captained England before Bobby Moore in the 1960s, has been curiously upgraded from an OBE (awarded in 2000) to a CBE , "for services to Lancashire".

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Re: New Year Honours

Post by Eric Air Emu on Thu 31 Dec 2009, 04:11

[This is Rachel]

Two other cricketing awards:

My old boss, John Jameson, gets an MBE, as does Keith Moss, former Yorkshire Chairman.

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