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The guidelines given to WACA umpires (which usually flow down from the ICC) on throwing is that if a bowler's "normal" action looks suspect then you should report the bowler for review by the 'chucking' committee. If a bowler runs in and "pings" it (different to his normal action) then you can no ball him for throwing (and should also report him)
The guidelines given to WACA umpires (which usually flow down from the ICC) on throwing is that if a bowler's "normal" action looks suspect then you should report the bowler for review by the 'chucking' committee. If a bowler runs in and "pings" it (different to his normal action) then you can no ball him for throwing (and should also report him)

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Doesn't a doosra look considerably different from most bowler's 'regular action'? Especially for a pinger.
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Haven't seen one bowled in a game (from an umpires point of view) so I couldn't say.
Have only ever reported one guy for a suspect action ...got a whinge from his captain about how 'it would ruin him being reported... again' ...he must have passed his test because I reported him in thirds (last season) and he is playing firsts this year
Had one other player who was bowling leggies "chuck" in a quick offie as his surprise ball ...it looked wrong but it came out of nowhere so we weren't sure ...it was the only one he bowled because the farquit batsman asked in a loud voice if it was a chuck ...the bowlers captain defended him by saying 'the bowler had an elbow deformity'
Have only ever reported one guy for a suspect action ...got a whinge from his captain about how 'it would ruin him being reported... again' ...he must have passed his test because I reported him in thirds (last season) and he is playing firsts this year
Had one other player who was bowling leggies "chuck" in a quick offie as his surprise ball ...it looked wrong but it came out of nowhere so we weren't sure ...it was the only one he bowled because the farquit batsman asked in a loud voice if it was a chuck ...the bowlers captain defended him by saying 'the bowler had an elbow deformity'

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The "Deformed Elbow" defence is on a par with the Chewbacca Defence for effectiveness.

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skully wrote:The "Deformed Elbow" defence is on a par with the Chewbacca Defence for effectiveness.
Even better if you're not lilly white. qmyjr is still praticing the leg/offie/chinaman/doosra/mystery ball/googly/howsat chuck.
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It's called a "yoyo", qmy, and me and my mates (and most of the cricketers I know) chuck 'em from half pitch distance in the nets to sharpen a batsmen's eye for the spinning ball.
Basically start with the ball in your hand resting on your right shoulder, point your elbow and the back of your hand at the batsmen and flick it, using the middle finger or index finger to make it spin either way. Much like a yoyo action.
Chuck does it with a run-up and some waving arms prior to assuming the position described above.
It's the only way you can turn an offie towards the slips. A doosra is by definition a chuck.
Basically start with the ball in your hand resting on your right shoulder, point your elbow and the back of your hand at the batsmen and flick it, using the middle finger or index finger to make it spin either way. Much like a yoyo action.
Chuck does it with a run-up and some waving arms prior to assuming the position described above.
It's the only way you can turn an offie towards the slips. A doosra is by definition a chuck.

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Skully I once stood still at the bowler's end and moved the ball both ways by flicking my wrist during a demo. I still needed the bent arm to propel it and to tell you the truth my accuracy was shithouse, but I had an area coaching director flabbergasted.
"How are you doing that son?"
"I'm chucking the farking thing."
Needless to say my bowling figures were shithouse that year as every ump in the system thought I was fair game.
"How are you doing that son?"
"I'm chucking the farking thing."
Needless to say my bowling figures were shithouse that year as every ump in the system thought I was fair game.
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Well played Chuck. 

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Hmm, well some of the young spinners in the county set up are practising a form of doosra involving flicking the fingers the other way. That's the only way they're being allowed to do it, because anything else is a chuck. It's useful as a surprise ball, but the action is pretty easy to spot, so I can't see it ever working at a high level.
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