AFL 2010

The AFL wishes to advise arrangements for the replay of the 2010 Toyota AFL grand final are as follows:

The replay of the 2010 Toyota AFL Grand Final between Collingwood and St Kilda will be played at 2.30pm on Saturday, October 2, 2010 at the MCG.

Tickets will be on sale to members of the competing clubs at 9am Monday, september 27.

Tickets for AFL members will be on sale 9am Tuesday September 28.

Should any tickets be available after sales to club members, tickets will go on sale at 9am on Wednesday September 29 to the general public.

As well as the 25,000 tickets that are normally available to members of the competing clubs, it is expected that up to 16,000 further tickets will also be made available to members of the competing clubs.

All ticket prices will remain the same price as per today's match.

Collingwood and St Kilda will wear the same uniforms and all other arrangements re team dressing rooms etc will remain the same.

AFL chief executive officer Andrew Demetriou said that after discussions with the AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick and the AFL Executive it has been decided that in the event of a second drawn grand final, that extra time will be played. Five minutes extra time each end will be played.
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The AFL wishes to advise the voting for the Norm Smith Medal was as follows; (all votes are 3,2,1 in the order listed)

Brad Scott (North Melbourne FC, chairman) - Brendon Goddard (St Kilda), Dale Thomas (Collingwood), Lenny Hayes (St Kilda).

Matthew Lloyd (Sen 1116) - Lenny Hayes (St Kilda), Brendon Goddard (St Kilda), Dale Thomas (Collingwood).

Chris Grant (ABC) - Lenny Hayes (St Kilda), Nick Maxwell (Collingwood), Brendon Goddard (St Kilda).

Michael Gleeson (The Age) - Lenny Hayes (St Kilda), Dale Thomas (Collingwood), Brendon Goddard (St Kilda).

Steve Rielly (The Australian) - Lenny Hayes (St Kilda), Sam Fisher (St Kilda), Dale Thomas (Collingwood).

Totals:

13 - Lenny Hayes, St Kilda

7 - Brendon Goddard, St Kilda

6 - Dale Thomas, Collingwood

2 - Sam Fisher, St Kilda

2 - Nick Maxwell, Collingwood
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I thought Goddard was best on ground, fwiw

I reckon they should have "Golden Point".

The Pies would be good at that.

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:Well, the pies still don't know how to win on the last Saturday in September.

Aints struggle too. Both of us are fatally flawed.

No team in any comp is as fatally flawed as Colllingwood.

Overall in Grand Finals - P 41, W 14, L 25, D 2.

Saints would be worse wouldn't it?

Aren't they something like 1-5 with a draw?

Zat wrote:

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:Well, the pies still don't know how to win on the last Saturday in September.

Aints struggle too. Both of us are fatally flawed.

No team in any comp is as fatally flawed as Colllingwood.

Overall in Grand Finals - P 41, W 14, L 25, D 2.

But Aints take the cake when it comes to wooden spoons. Depends which way you look at it.

Interesting to note that the AFL is loath to permanently consider extra time to settle draws in Grand Finals.

Imagine how disadvantaged players and fans from an interstate team would be fronting up to a Victorian team two weeks running.

I've always thought there is a flaw in Aussie Rules as far as draws are concerned. Since the object of the game is to score goals, in the event of a draw the team that has scored most goals should be declared the winner.

In many draws this wouldn't help as both teams will have scored the same number of goals. However, all three grand final draws would have produced a result on the day.

St Kilda would now be premiers. The consolation for Collingwood is that they would have been premiers in 1977 instead of North Melbourne. Essendon managed to draw in 1948 despite scoring two fewer goals than Melbourne who went on to win the following week anyway.

ten years after wrote:I've always thought there is a flaw in Aussie Rules as far as draws are concerned. Since the object of the game is to score goals, in the event of a draw the team that has scored most goals should be declared the winner.

In many draws this wouldn't help as both teams will have scored the same number of goals. However, all three grand final draws would have produced a result on the day.

St Kilda would now be premiers. The consolation for Collingwood is that they would have been premiers in 1977 instead of North Melbourne. Essendon managed to draw in 1948 despite scoring two fewer goals than Melbourne who went on to win the following week anyway.

Or you could have the team which finished higher on the ladder during the regular season declared as the winner.

Red wrote:

ten years after wrote:I've always thought there is a flaw in Aussie Rules as far as draws are concerned. Since the object of the game is to score goals, in the event of a draw the team that has scored most goals should be declared the winner.

In many draws this wouldn't help as both teams will have scored the same number of goals. However, all three grand final draws would have produced a result on the day.

St Kilda would now be premiers. The consolation for Collingwood is that they would have been premiers in 1977 instead of North Melbourne. Essendon managed to draw in 1948 despite scoring two fewer goals than Melbourne who went on to win the following week anyway.

Or you could have the team which finished higher on the ladder during the regular season declared as the winner.

What a stupid idea, Red . . even more stupid than your usual bollocks . . .

Red wrote:

ten years after wrote:I've always thought there is a flaw in Aussie Rules as far as draws are concerned. Since the object of the game is to score goals, in the event of a draw the team that has scored most goals should be declared the winner.

In many draws this wouldn't help as both teams will have scored the same number of goals. However, all three grand final draws would have produced a result on the day.

St Kilda would now be premiers. The consolation for Collingwood is that they would have been premiers in 1977 instead of North Melbourne. Essendon managed to draw in 1948 despite scoring two fewer goals than Melbourne who went on to win the following week anyway.

Or you could have the team which finished higher on the ladder during the regular season declared as the winner.

Seriously though, my suggestion would apply to any drawn match and rewards the team that has acheived the main objective of the game most often.

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:Well, the pies still don't know how to win on the last Saturday in September.

Aints struggle too. Both of us are fatally flawed.

No team in any comp is as fatally flawed as Colllingwood.

Overall in Grand Finals - P 41, W 14, L 25, D 2.

But Aints take the cake when it comes to wooden spoons. Depends which way you look at it.

Interesting to note that the AFL is loath to permanently consider extra time to settle draws in Grand Finals.

Imagine how disadvantaged players and fans from an interstate team would be fronting up to a Victorian team two weeks running.

Given that the conversation was about Grand Finals, wooden spoons have nothing to do with it.
And anyone complaining about the replay of a drawn GF needs to STFU. It's been in the rules forever, even after the 1990 debacle which handed the pies a fluke flag on a plate, and nobody has complained since then. The AFL is sticking to its guns. Unlike the ICC, which would - by now - have found a way to give the premiership to India.

at half time I was tempted to make a trek to Dan Murphys to buy a shed load of scotch to play losing bets...then I remembered the wobbles and kept the faith

How farking hard is to kick a behind? This can only get worse. The last time Collingwood drew a GF so did the Drags. As much as I hate the Roosters I'd be interested to know how much Bennet paid the Ref. And of course McCallum was the third official. Appropriate he was a NSW copper.

hehehe...Cloke seems to have no trouble kicking a behind

Zat wrote:

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:

Red wrote:

Zat wrote:Well, the pies still don't know how to win on the last Saturday in September.

Aints struggle too. Both of us are fatally flawed.

No team in any comp is as fatally flawed as Colllingwood.

Overall in Grand Finals - P 41, W 14, L 25, D 2.

But Aints take the cake when it comes to wooden spoons. Depends which way you look at it.

Interesting to note that the AFL is loath to permanently consider extra time to settle draws in Grand Finals.

Imagine how disadvantaged players and fans from an interstate team would be fronting up to a Victorian team two weeks running.

Given that the conversation was about Grand Finals, wooden spoons have nothing to do with it.
And anyone complaining about the replay of a drawn GF needs to STFU. It's been in the rules forever, even after the 1990 debacle which handed the pies a fluke flag on a plate, and nobody has complained since then. The AFL is sticking to its guns. Unlike the ICC, which would - by now - have found a way to give the premiership to India.

As ludicrous as the ICC is, the AFL can match them blow for blow with some of its rulings. Only yesterday Stalin was saying that we won't be formulating knee-jerk reaction policies yet has already started with its famous policy on the run methodology.

It's retrospectively rescinded the rule which proclaims that those nabbed in Grand Finals must receive double points from the match review panel. It's put in place an 'emergency' rule for next week if the scores are tied again at the end of the match. Also bet your bottom dollar that the match review panel will be lenient on offenders who would have been rubbed out had they committed the same offence mid-season. With the AFL ruling body inconsistency and ad hoc is everything.

And harking back to 1990, regardless of the draw, we were still a great chance to win. Collingwood and Essendon were neck and neck for most of the year with them ahead early and us closing the gap. They were slightly older, we were young and hungry. We thumped them in both finals.

As for bringing up the wooden spoons, it was merely to illustrate that while nobody enjoys losing grand finals, at least we've made more than anybody. Only one team can win. But for the socialistic rules of the competition and an accident of geography, the Aints wouldn't still be alive today!

TAB are offering a "Holy Trinity" bet for the weekend - you can take St Kilda for the AFL, St George for the NRL and St Helens for the SuperLeague.