India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
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I am most happy Lanka won this and feel they should have won the last game too. Then maybe we will see the end of these 'good one day wicket' they make for most JAMODIs here.....
oh ffs quit the bitching. noones forcing you to watch these matches. i know you cant help 'stumble across the highlights whilst flicking the news channels' or whatever shite mandatory excuse you need to come up with every time you post on an odi thread

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
Ash wrote:Batman wrote:
I am most happy Lanka won this and feel they should have won the last game too. Then maybe we will see the end of these 'good one day wicket' they make for most JAMODIs here.....
oh ffs quit the bitching. noones forcing you to watch these matches. i know you cant help 'stumble across the highlights whilst flicking the news channels' or whatever shite mandatory excuse you need to come up with every time you post on an odi thread
That would be the fact. As much as I try to, I just can't warm upto these crap high scoring tonkfests. And there is no farking way to escape them on any stupid media/news channel! I simply hate the shit that passes for 'one day' cricket in India. The media just won't take a hike and downplay it at all! And that's no excuse. Unfortunate 'cricket' obsessed reality of urban India.
I simply wish that Lanka wins all these high scoring crap played on 'good one day wicket' [The shameless qunt curators like Prasanna actually call it that?] and the BCCI finally does some soul searching on these crap flat pitches! It's just damaging our cricket!
When I think of one day cricket that was enjoyable I think of the one day match against SL in Singapur after the 1995 WC, when the buoyant WC winning Lankan team couldn't chase 200 against us. Or that thrilling WC quarter final Pak game at Bangalore in 1995. Or Sachin's desert storm against the Aussies in 1998. Or the Hero Cup final. Or the 5 match Toronto series against Pak in 1997 that we won 4-1 on Ganguly's all round show where not a single game went beyond 250 runs per innings. Or India's successful run chase of 314 in fading light against Pak in Dhaka in 1998. Or the Titan Cup semi-final against Aus and final against SA in 1996. Those were quality games. It's now just ridiculous and stupid to see teams chasing down 300, 350 and even close to 400 so regularly because the pitches offer no contest to the bowling at all. Or even that Natwest Trophy final in England that Kaif and Yuvi won. That game was sheer fightback. It was not deliberate. So many games these days end up deliberate because of the crap flat wickets now. Where is that class, excitement and the beauty of it in the one day cricket we get now anymore?
How can anyone even imagine this dreary tonkfest designed for ugly sloggers and murdering bowlers even watchable let alone exciting is beyond me. I wonder how people can't be tired of this crap already?

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
And to heap more abuse on 'one day' cricket, we now have yet another flat wicket [is anyone surprised?] for the next game too.....
Barabati will be batsmen's paradise: Curator!
With a batting-friendly wicket on offer, another high scoring spectacle seems to be on the cards when India takes on Sri Lanka in the third One-dayer of the five-match series at Barabati Stadium in Cuttack on Monday.
If the curator for the Barabati stadium is to be believed, the pitch will assist batsmen and it promises to be a 300-plus wicket.
"We have given our best to prepare a batting wicket [WHY?]. We hope it turns out to be a batsman's paradise on the lines of what we witnessed in Rajkot and Nagpur," [WHY?]curator Pankaj Patnaik told PTI.
"Bowlers will get good bounce and there will be little turn for spinners but we have to make sure the wicket offers lots of runs as it's a One-day match after all," Patnaik said. [Who the hell defined this concept of a one day game anyways?]
"There won't be much of a difference in batting first or second as we hope the pitch will remain firm," he said.
However, he warned with little chill in the air, the dew factor might pose some problems for the day-night affair.
"We will use some chemical spray to keep the dew at bay. We will use it before the match in two-hour intervals so that it will negate the dew affect," he said.
Patnaik said they have prepared the same wicket on which India successfully chased England's 270 in the last One-dayer played at this venue on November 26, 2008.
Traditionally, Barabati has been a lucky venue for Team India who have won eight, lost four and one was abandoned due to rain.
But they have a poor record against Sri Lanka in Barabati, having lost to them in the only One-dayer played between the two countries on December 28, 1990.

Barabati will be batsmen's paradise: Curator!
With a batting-friendly wicket on offer, another high scoring spectacle seems to be on the cards when India takes on Sri Lanka in the third One-dayer of the five-match series at Barabati Stadium in Cuttack on Monday.
If the curator for the Barabati stadium is to be believed, the pitch will assist batsmen and it promises to be a 300-plus wicket.
"We have given our best to prepare a batting wicket [WHY?]. We hope it turns out to be a batsman's paradise on the lines of what we witnessed in Rajkot and Nagpur," [WHY?]curator Pankaj Patnaik told PTI.
"Bowlers will get good bounce and there will be little turn for spinners but we have to make sure the wicket offers lots of runs as it's a One-day match after all," Patnaik said. [Who the hell defined this concept of a one day game anyways?]
"There won't be much of a difference in batting first or second as we hope the pitch will remain firm," he said.
However, he warned with little chill in the air, the dew factor might pose some problems for the day-night affair.
"We will use some chemical spray to keep the dew at bay. We will use it before the match in two-hour intervals so that it will negate the dew affect," he said.
Patnaik said they have prepared the same wicket on which India successfully chased England's 270 in the last One-dayer played at this venue on November 26, 2008.
Traditionally, Barabati has been a lucky venue for Team India who have won eight, lost four and one was abandoned due to rain.
But they have a poor record against Sri Lanka in Barabati, having lost to them in the only One-dayer played between the two countries on December 28, 1990.

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
So the question remains, why have a pitch committee if inefficient poops in charge of the wicket will dish out the same crap dead tracks? And what is the point of ICC taking a 'serious' note of the track that was prepared at Rajkot in the first game?

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t20 has advanced the odi game just as the odi game had advanced the test game. you say you enjoyed indias 318 chase in the independence cup and the natwest final but they were 300+ chases on flat pitches. teams most likely will score 350+ on those same decks now. its not the pitches that are the problem, the batsmen are more capable / aggressive. 20 yrs ago, fans would be bemoaning the same natwest final/independence cup, as 220 was the par score. i dont see the point bemoaning the advancement of the game. more results in tests has been the best side effect of odis and it doesnt necessarily have to come at the expense of technique.

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
Ash, you’re right. No one is forcing Vikas to watch anything he doesn’t want to and it isn’t difficult avoiding dedicated channels (not unless you’ve got NEO as default), whose primary priority is not cricket but commercials anyway
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I think what Vikas was alluding to was the failing egalitarian attitude by Indian curators, who seem to have imbibed the stance that any ODI wicket which doesn’t produce 300+ scores just isn’t a good wicket. Basically the crowds are to be blamed – or even the powers that be - who seem ready to sacrifice bowler careers to fill the already brimming coffers. Nothing against that, if you play a different set of non-test bowlers for the ODIs which would allow them to leave their (cricketing) brain at the entrance gate. For me cricket has three disciplines; proper bowling is one of them.
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I think what Vikas was alluding to was the failing egalitarian attitude by Indian curators, who seem to have imbibed the stance that any ODI wicket which doesn’t produce 300+ scores just isn’t a good wicket. Basically the crowds are to be blamed – or even the powers that be - who seem ready to sacrifice bowler careers to fill the already brimming coffers. Nothing against that, if you play a different set of non-test bowlers for the ODIs which would allow them to leave their (cricketing) brain at the entrance gate. For me cricket has three disciplines; proper bowling is one of them.
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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
haven't read the long post but Vikas seems to be on to something here
These pitches are an absolute waste of time
These pitches are an absolute waste of time

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
Ash wrote:Batman wrote:
I am most happy Lanka won this and feel they should have won the last game too. Then maybe we will see the end of these 'good one day wicket' they make for most JAMODIs here.....
oh ffs quit the bitching. noones forcing you to watch these matches. i know you cant help 'stumble across the highlights whilst flicking the news channels' or whatever shite mandatory excuse you need to come up with every time you post on an odi thread
thing is these days i have a little bit of time (because of winter break and break up) so i WANT to watch some cricket but then when i switch on to watch the game all i see is the bowlers getting smashed only PARTIALLY due to the SKILL but mostly due to the flatness of pitches.
not good.

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Re: India v Sri Lanka, 2nd ODI, Nagpur, Dec 18
its been like that for years. and not just in india. low scoring odis can be a lot of fun but not everyone may see it that way. odis has always been a batsman's game.

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