Wogball in crisis

*Way to go, Orcadians*

I maintain turnovers are down in general as a result of the defence stretching out in a flat wide line without the forwards committing to the breakdown.

I've just re-read your post & I'm not quite with you on this aspect. Australia turnover the ball whenever it's in the hands of big (skirt) Wycliff Palu but in other instances it's usually due to the defenders flooding a ruck & smashing the attackers off the ball. You're right in that they are able to pull this off because they have the numbers available in defense, at some point remote to the previous breakdown. There's an imbalance created, perhaps by accident and perhaps through planning. Prospering via the exposure of an opposition weakness is the nature of most competitive games.

You know I seem to remember a lot of Rugby games from the late seventys/earlyeighties where there was a lot of razzle dazzle which were the result of traditional Rugby plays.

Yeah the breakdown interpretations can suck at times and are open to abuse but it's still a game of territory rather than possession.

You know I seem to remember a lot of Rugby games from the late seventys/earlyeighties where there was a lot of razzle dazzle which were the result of traditional Rugby plays.

= Ella + Ella + Ella

Yeah the breakdown interpretations can suck at times and are open to abuse but it's still a game of territory rather than possession

Is there any problem in wanting to improve the game?

Aus v Scotland 1984.

Do you need to improve the game Mick?

Do you need to improve the game Mick?

Yeah. As many have mentioned, there is too much ugly kicking. Opting for the roost when those watching would love to see it run. Kicking it back deep into their territory with the objective (read vain hope) of forcing an immediate turnover. It avoids losing possession or giving up a penalty down at the kickers defensive end.

Has the round ball morphed into an oval one??

skully wrote:Has the round ball morphed into an oval one??

"Natural order of things" (Billy Ellis)

Thierry Henry though he was playing Rugby in the WC qualifier v the Oirish. Tapped it back in the ruck before setting up a scoring break for another forward.

skully wrote:Thierry Henry though he was playing Rugby in the WC qualifier v the Oirish. Tapped it back in the ruck before setting up a scoring break for another forward.

Another one of those ugly grubber kicks that produces a soft score.

Hehe, indeed.

skully wrote:Hehe, indeed.

wtf are we doing discussing wogball?

I have no clue.

skully wrote:I have no clue.

We're both clueless then. With that in mind I'd better get back and provide some paying clients with some advice.

Cheers

Mick Sawyer wrote:

Do you need to improve the game Mick?

Yeah. As many have mentioned, there is too much ugly kicking. Opting for the roost when those watching would love to see it run. Kicking it back deep into their territory with the objective (read vain hope) of forcing an immediate turnover. It avoids losing possession or giving up a penalty down at the kickers defensive end.

Because you no longer have the option of moving the ball back into the 22 and kicking out on the full, so teams are petrified of getting into trouble in their own half. I have to say that I don't recall anyone thinking that idea was a bad one at the time, but it has been instrumental in the increase in kicking it up into the stratosphere instead.