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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Shoeshine on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 11:52

beamer wrote:
JKLever wrote:Got a feeling the ever improving Argies will beat England this weekend...

They're missing their two star backs (Hernandez and Contepomi), and I think they've lost a fair few others from the side that reached the World Cup semis - England should have enough. Having said that, Argentina tend to be strong in the scrum and we're down to about our 15th choice front row... I think it will depend on whether Argentina have a reliable goal-kicker, I don't expect many tries.


The weather is going to be dire as well - so it'll be a forward battle.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by taipan on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 11:57

Shoeshine wrote:
beamer wrote:
JKLever wrote:Got a feeling the ever improving Argies will beat England this weekend...

They're missing their two star backs (Hernandez and Contepomi), and I think they've lost a fair few others from the side that reached the World Cup semis - England should have enough. Having said that, Argentina tend to be strong in the scrum and we're down to about our 15th choice front row... I think it will depend on whether Argentina have a reliable goal-kicker, I don't expect many tries.


The weather is going to be dire as well - so it'll be a forward battle.


And that is different to normal English rugby, how?

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by JGK on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 19:33

The Frogs beat the Boks. Nice.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by tac on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 21:13

Boks blame the french singer for their defeat . . . even nicer . . .

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Mick Sawyer on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 21:46

Aus over Ireland by 11; fingers crossed.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Bradman on Fri 13 Nov 2009, 22:22

You are so farked Mick. They are gonna cruel us.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Shoeshine on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 00:23

taipan wrote:
Shoeshine wrote:
beamer wrote:
JKLever wrote:Got a feeling the ever improving Argies will beat England this weekend...

They're missing their two star backs (Hernandez and Contepomi), and I think they've lost a fair few others from the side that reached the World Cup semis - England should have enough. Having said that, Argentina tend to be strong in the scrum and we're down to about our 15th choice front row... I think it will depend on whether Argentina have a reliable goal-kicker, I don't expect many tries.


The weather is going to be dire as well - so it'll be a forward battle.


And that is different to normal English rugby, how?


We might not win, that's how. Though it's noticeable that the utterly craven stupidity that caused the South Africans to accept the idiotic ELVs against their better instincts and give them enough momentum that we're still left with a fair few of them has had the impact of reducing the amount of running rugby and increasing the amount of kicking. Well done. What on earth possessed you to listen to the Australians?

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Shoeshine on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 04:01

England look diabolical again. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by beamer on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 04:26

England only level thanks to having a better goal-kicker... no attempt at all to run the ball. OK, the weather and injuries aren't helping but they have to realise this isn't working?

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by DJ_Smerk on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 04:29

Oh so this is England's running game eh? Cool

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Shoeshine on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 04:33

Well, there's some excuse for the conditions, but not to the degree they're playing at.

It's the utter absence of ambition which infuriates me. If they're just poor, well, that's one thing. But poor and cowardly is unacceptable.

They haven't created a chance in 120 minutes this autumn.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by JKLever on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 06:03

Poor stuff, lucky to win... not that the Argie Bargies were any better.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by Shoeshine on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 06:06

JKLever wrote:Poor stuff, lucky to win... not that the Argie Bargies were any better.


Argentina were playing a bunch of novices, as part of their building up to 2011, and had left their best players at home. They hadn't played for five months, and had just one week together before the match. Given all of that, and notwithstanding England's injury crisis, the fact they looked the better team is just shocking.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by beamer on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 06:45

One decent move in the entire match basically won it for us. We could have been well behind by then if the Argie goalkicker had taken his chances in the first half.

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Re: Autumn Internationals 2009

Post by DJ_Smerk on Sat 14 Nov 2009, 06:57

Joe Worsley is by far England's best player. You'll need him around until atleast 2011.

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