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While reading at the report of a 17 year old Lahori Ahmed Shahzad hammering possibly the greatest spin combo in the history of the game i began to think that this one city has given more to the game than any other in the world...(at least from 1952 when PAK first played a test match)
Sarfraz Nawaz- Inventor of reverse swing
Imran Khan- Possibly the greatest cricketer of the last 30 years.
Wasim Akram- Possibly the most talented bowler
Saqlain Mushtaq- doosra
M Yousuf- One of the most graceful batsmen of the recent times
Majid Khan- same as yousuf
Abdul Qadir- Savior of conventional leg spin bowling
even a lot of the wasted talents like A Razzaq and Nazir are from Lahore and others like Mushy and Wasim Raja played a lot of cricket in Lahore
So the obvious question
Why so much talent comes out from this one city?
Sarfraz Nawaz- Inventor of reverse swing
Imran Khan- Possibly the greatest cricketer of the last 30 years.
Wasim Akram- Possibly the most talented bowler
Saqlain Mushtaq- doosra
M Yousuf- One of the most graceful batsmen of the recent times
Majid Khan- same as yousuf
Abdul Qadir- Savior of conventional leg spin bowling
even a lot of the wasted talents like A Razzaq and Nazir are from Lahore and others like Mushy and Wasim Raja played a lot of cricket in Lahore
So the obvious question
Why so much talent comes out from this one city?

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Area
- Total 1,772 km2 (684 sq mi)
Population (2007)
- Total 6,319,000
- Density 3,566/km2 (9,238.3/sq mi)
- Total 1,772 km2 (684 sq mi)
Population (2007)
- Total 6,319,000
- Density 3,566/km2 (9,238.3/sq mi)

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lot of bowling talent (two great bowlers and some very good ones), not much in batting. almost a reverse bombay
what have london or sydney produced? or even the tiny island of barbados
what have london or sydney produced? or even the tiny island of barbados
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The One wrote:lot of bowling talent (two great bowlers and some very good ones), not much in batting. almost a reverse bombay
what have london or sydney produced? or even the tiny island of barbados
M Yousuf and Majid Khan....graceful batting
Nazir and A Razzaq...hitting
Saqi- Off spin
A Qadir- leg spin
Imran- right arm phast
Wasim- Left arm Phast
Fazal Mahood- medium pace
Every thing covered.

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maybe for an odi. for a test match the batting is weak if majid is your second best batsman. great bowling attack though. i would leave out qadir and play saqlain. fazal, imran and wasim would be great in almost all conditions
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I agree it may not be THE strongest team in the world(Barbados post 1952 may be stronger)
but i don't think any other city can match(or even come close) to what the cricketers of Lahore have given to the game both in terms of talent and innovation.
but i don't think any other city can match(or even come close) to what the cricketers of Lahore have given to the game both in terms of talent and innovation.

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Screw you terrorists! 

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PlanetPakistan wrote:Screw you terrorists!
Let me ask you a question. Why on earth the famous cricket stadium in your beloved city is named after an international terrorist and outcast?
Don't you think you guys have a huge problem in selecting what is good and what is evil?
May be you can re-name the Karachi ground 'Bin-Laden Stadium'
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Not a fan of Gaddafi and certainly agree that the name should be named Khalil Ahmed stadium....
and yes i also agree that we don't always differentiate between good and evil....prime example being the support of GW Bush.
and yes i also agree that we don't always differentiate between good and evil....prime example being the support of GW Bush.

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You are right here. I don't want to see Pakistan as an ally any more. I don't want to see one penny from my tax dollar goes to fund the terrorist via the govt. of Pakistan when we are struggling to meet our daily expenses. Shame on you, John Kerry.
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why are you so desperate to start an argument for the sake of it?
You do realize that literally THOUSANDS of Pakistani civilians and soliders have been killed while fighting this "war". you do realize that there have been OVER 50 drone attacks by the US and have killed 100s of Pakistani civilians?...
HAS it helped?
you simply can't solve problems through a mindless barrage of guns, garnades and drones....
You do realize that literally THOUSANDS of Pakistani civilians and soliders have been killed while fighting this "war". you do realize that there have been OVER 50 drone attacks by the US and have killed 100s of Pakistani civilians?...
HAS it helped?
you simply can't solve problems through a mindless barrage of guns, garnades and drones....

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PlanetPakistan wrote:HAS it helped?
you simply can't solve problems through a mindless barrage of guns, garnades and drones....
Actually that is the problem Faisal. How do you solve the problem when you do not know what the problem is exactly and what do these damn terrorists want?!
Anyway, great talent from Lahore city alone but Imran's saturday interview in times online has disappointed me really!!
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Chandan wrote:PlanetPakistan wrote:HAS it helped?
you simply can't solve problems through a mindless barrage of guns, garnades and drones....
Actually that is the problem Faisal. How do you solve the problem when you do not know what the problem is exactly and what do these damn terrorists want?!
Anyway, great talent from Lahore city alone but Imran's saturday interview in times online has disappointed me really!!
i am guessing because of the following...
“Almost all the terrorism taking place here since 2004 when Pakistan sent its army into the tribal areas has been suicide attacks. Last year there were over 100 suicide attacks – but they have a pattern. They are always in retaliation.”
This week’s ambush by 12 gunmen was, he says, different. “They had an escape route – it was well planned. I certainly don’t think this was done by ideological terrorists, motivated to blow themselves up.”
In his view a “foreign element” was almost certainly involved. “It could be India, Afghanistan, the Tamil Tigers. The motive is to damage the state of Pakistan and end cricket here. The shocking thing is that there was so little security for the players

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Nope. Not just that. You read the entire interview and he is certainly sympathising with the terrorists or the 'home grown terrorists'. How earth can you do that? There is no way one can sympathasise with terrorists who kill innoncent people.
When highly educated people like Imran are doing it in Pak, you wonder what kind of thinking the general public might be having!
This is the interview I'm talking about:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article5860736.ece
When highly educated people like Imran are doing it in Pak, you wonder what kind of thinking the general public might be having!
This is the interview I'm talking about:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article5860736.ece
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the war against terror was wrong and has created more terrorists...
This is what i wrote
"You do realize that literally THOUSANDS of Pakistani civilians and soliders have been killed while fighting this "war". you do realize that there have been OVER 50 drone attacks by the US and have killed 100s of Pakistani civilians?...
HAS it helped?"
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It may be no coincidence that he is campaigning ever more vociferously for his country to become independent of the West. “The leadership should say to the Americans: thank you very much but we are now going to stop our country going under. The War on Terror is radicalising the youth; we need to cut our losses and stabilise our country.”
Pakistan, he insists, should never have allowed itself to become a “front-line state” in the battle against al-Qaeda. “The decision to send the Pakistani Army into the tribal areas simply fuelled extremism. They were like a bull in a china shop, fighting one or two guerrillas with aerial bombing of villages. That turned people against the army and a new phenomenon was created: the Pakistan Taleban.”
Two ways of saying the same thing, this so called war against terror has made things worse and has to be immediately stopped. The RAW element in places in Baluchistan and NWFP has also been documented about and they need to get out of there, those folks aren't just enemies of Pakistan but they are enemies of India as well because if Pakistan goes down it is certainly going to have a huge(read negative) impact on India as well.
This is what i wrote
"You do realize that literally THOUSANDS of Pakistani civilians and soliders have been killed while fighting this "war". you do realize that there have been OVER 50 drone attacks by the US and have killed 100s of Pakistani civilians?...
HAS it helped?"
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It may be no coincidence that he is campaigning ever more vociferously for his country to become independent of the West. “The leadership should say to the Americans: thank you very much but we are now going to stop our country going under. The War on Terror is radicalising the youth; we need to cut our losses and stabilise our country.”
Pakistan, he insists, should never have allowed itself to become a “front-line state” in the battle against al-Qaeda. “The decision to send the Pakistani Army into the tribal areas simply fuelled extremism. They were like a bull in a china shop, fighting one or two guerrillas with aerial bombing of villages. That turned people against the army and a new phenomenon was created: the Pakistan Taleban.”
Two ways of saying the same thing, this so called war against terror has made things worse and has to be immediately stopped. The RAW element in places in Baluchistan and NWFP has also been documented about and they need to get out of there, those folks aren't just enemies of Pakistan but they are enemies of India as well because if Pakistan goes down it is certainly going to have a huge(read negative) impact on India as well.

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