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Post by PlanetPakistan on Wed 11 Feb 2009, 03:06

First of all welcome to FB
Shoaib has never lasted a test match? what the heck?

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Post by PlanetPakistan on Wed 11 Feb 2009, 09:16

Quite surprising to see a midget like M Sami generate so much pace.

Wish he had NOT cut down his run up and pace in 2004

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Post by Gary 111 on Wed 11 Feb 2009, 17:57

Mike Selvey wrote a very good article about pace bowling the other week in the Guardian.

Basically said what many people have about the speed guns, that they don't tell the whole story.

FWIW - Selvey said the fastest ball he'd ever sen was bowled by Shoaib, not the '100 mph' ball that Nick Knight calmly tucked into the leg-side for a single in the '03 World Cup - where the speed guns were doctored to give quicker readings, but he reckons it was the howitzer to Stephen Fleming the World Cup previously that had bowled him before he had even twitched.

Not a great bowler, but I doubt many fast bowlers has bowled with the same sustained pace as Brett Lee, not just one spell but sustained over a number of spells and across Test Series. Not always well directed, but always fast.

Then there's the great imponderables like how fast men like Larwood, Trueman, Tyson, Griffiths & Gilchrist were.

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Post by Brass Monkey on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 01:10

Kortrigth, Kotze and Ernie Jones thanks Gaz, at least there's footage of all of those great qunts you mentioned.

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by doremi on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:19

Sami ( ) troubled batsmen


Eh? When did this happen?

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Post by Guest on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:46

Wasim was more deadly with his ability to swing the ball and what he could do with the old ball rather than just out and out pace. He was still lively don't get me wrong but not one of the quickest.

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Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:51

Sans Souci wrote:Wasim was more deadly with his ability to swing the ball and what he could do with the old ball rather than just out and out pace. He was still lively don't get me wrong but not one of the quickest.

He was fairly sharp.

According to Warne in the 1994 test series against AUS(in PAK) he bowled as fast as he(Warne) has seen any one bowl.

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Post by The One on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:52

shoaib is the quickest i have seen. i cant imagine too many being quicker than him. i know some pakistanis have built up zahid as a demon, but i dont think he was quicker. i remember seeing him in the nz series and think his extra bounce made him seem a lot quicker than he was

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:53

doremi wrote:
Sami ( ) troubled batsmen


Eh? When did this happen?

check the video that i posted or his spell at Hamilton in 2003....

he got faster and faster and faster....and reduced the Kiwis to 52/7

M Sami could have been something really special but he decided to do a Munaf and took the easy way out.

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Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:56

The One wrote:shoaib is the quickest i have seen. i cant imagine too many being quicker than him. i know some pakistanis have built up zahid as a demon, but i dont think he was quicker. i remember seeing him in the nz series and think his extra bounce made him seem a lot quicker than he was

these include

- Shoaib himself
- Players who played against Zahid(almost ALL)
- Players who played WITH Zahid(almost ALL)

Recently Rameez Raja said that facing Zahid was like facing some one bowling with golf balls.

Even BC Lara and Hooper thought that he was the quickest.

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Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:58

"The first time I really felt that I had to watch a guy was against Mohammad Zahid at the Gabba in a Benson & Hedges game. It was probably the fastest spell I faced. I was in good form but the ball was just a blur. He was looking for wickets and and he had me thinking that if he got it on target, there was a very good chance of getting hit. " Hooper

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 02:59

There is no doubt in my mind that Zahid was more talented( not just quicker) than Shoaib.

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by The One on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 03:00

shoaib was a 95-100 mph bowler at his peak. how fast do you think zahid bowled at his?

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 05:12

The One wrote:shoaib was a 95-100 mph bowler at his peak. how fast do you think zahid bowled at his?

perhaps around the same speed(may be a KM or 2 quicker) from the hand but with more bite


p.s before making his international debut Zahid was clocked at over 100 mph in NZ

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Re: Rank the following based on SPEED

Post by PlanetPakistan on Thu 12 Feb 2009, 06:22

Brass monkey or Taipan,

How quick was Ngam?

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