Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

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Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by skully on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 21:41

Listening to ABC radio, several commentators highlighted the remarkable difference between the condition of the balls of the two sides at similar stages in the innings of all Tests.

India managed to do a brilliant job of keeping one side shiney and the other very rough to enhance reverse swing for Zak and Ishant. Aus on the other hand, usually ended up with a ball that was badly scuffed on both sides by the 10th over onwards (hence no farkin swing).

The ABC commentators felt that Midge's inability to consistently hit the seam (due to his poor wrist position at release) meant that the ball was always hitting the pitch random-sided when he bowled thus tearing up the ball on both sides.

I think there is something to this. When Pidg was in charge of the attack, he took personal responsibility for keeping the ball in half good/half bad shape and used to get it reversing consistently. Midge just seems to have no farkin clue.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by Henry on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 21:55

Johnson needs to learn how to take wickets consistently. He's quick- quicker than Lee these days, but he has no 5 fers in his test career so far, and only 2 5 fers in 38 first class matches. His test strike rate is also a distinctly average 66.5.

I think he should bowl round the wicket more. Hardly ever seems to do it.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by skully on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 21:57

One wonders whether Troy Cooley ain't as good as he's made out (i.e. post Ashes 2005) or Midge is just thick.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by WideWally on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 21:59

I don't think the ABC commentators would ever say anything complimentary about Johnson. Jim "Sht for Brains" Maxwell is still trying to get eleven dubbers in the one Australian team.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by Henry on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:00

If he changes his release and bowls from a higher action, I suspect they are worried he will lose his pace. Has he always bowled with the seam at such an angle? I seem to remember him bowling in the 2006 ICCCT with a beautifully upright seam and getting swing into the right handers and away from the left handers. He had England and India in all sorts.

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Post by Henry Nolonga on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:01

Midge could be quite a handful if he just managed to keep the seam upright. But it's been like that for quite a while, why hasn't it been sorted out?

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by skully on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:02

WideWally wrote:I don't think the ABC commentators would ever say anything complimentary about Johnson. Jim "Sht for Brains" Maxwell is still trying to get eleven dubbers in the one Australian team.

I'm not sure what your point is, Wally. Wink


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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by skully on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:04

Henry Nolonga wrote:Midge could be quite a handful if he just managed to keep the seam upright. But it's been like that for quite a while, why hasn't it been sorted out?

That, indeed, is the frustrating thing Henry. Everybody can see what the problem is but the big galoot seems incapable of correcting the technical flaw.

Midge's pace with some serious inswing and cut would be deadly in England next year.

I still have hope but he should've gotten it right by now.

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Post by Nath on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:07

Henry wrote:I seem to remember him bowling in the 2006 ICCCT with a beautifully upright seam and getting swing into the right handers and away from the left handers. He had England and India in all sorts.


White ball you say?

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by Henry on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:07

In 2005-06 he wasn't bowling quite as quickly (Between 135 and 145 kph) but he was definetly getting more swing. granted, that was with the white ball but still, the seam has to be in a certain position for any cricket ball to swing.

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Post by taipan on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:15

skully wrote:One wonders whether Troy Cooley ain't as good as he's made out (i.e. post Ashes 2005) or Midge is just thick.


I almost misread this.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by Paul Keating on Mon 10 Nov 2008 - 22:27

He has had a lot of catches dropped off his bowling That is disheartening.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by OP Tipping on Tue 11 Nov 2008 - 0:51

This seems a harsh criticism of our leading wicket taker in the series.

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by embee on Tue 11 Nov 2008 - 0:53

It's the normal anti-wozzie conspiracy

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Re: Was Midge the reason we couldn't compete with the Indians?

Post by lardbucket on Tue 11 Nov 2008 - 9:45

Always blame the Wozzie.

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