Ponting denies the evidence. The man is deluded.

by Zat on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 11:57

Selected cuts from the ABC news story

Australian captain Ricky Ponting says the prospect of missing next week's first Test against New Zealand forced his decision to change his tactics against India.

Match referee Chris Broad fined Ponting 20 per cent of his match fee for Australia's slow over rate in the fourth Test in Nagpur, with the rest of the team fined 10 per cent each.

Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland said he will seek an explanation from Ponting.

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Ponting says he was not willing to risk a suspension by continuing with his fast bowlers.

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But Ponting slammed comments from former players including Allan Border and Mark Waugh that he put his interests before the team.

Ponting said he would never jeopardise Australia's chances of winning a Test match ... "Some of the things suggesting I've put myself ahead of the team is something that I've never ever done and never ever will do ... Never at any stage did I think that I'd be giving up a chance of Australia winning the Test match."

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"I had Jason Krejza bowling at one end and Cameron White, who had been the number one spinner in the first three Tests, operating from the other for a couple of overs. That didn't work out the way I'd have liked."

Where do you start?

Perhaps the bit at the end where Cam White's bowling 'didn't work out', so instead of going to a strike weapon, he brought on Hussey...

Or where he says he didn't put himself first, even though he was motivated by trying to avoid a suspension.

I reckon he's posturing for a career in politics because it seems from te above (and more in the linked story) that he couldn't lie straight in bed. I've long been a fan of him as a batsman, but my loathing of him as a captain has plumbed new depths this morning.

by G.Wood on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:08

Maybe he just really is that stoopid and doesn't connect the "not risking a suspension" with putting his own interests ahead of the team's.

by Zat on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:10

It's certainly starting to stack up in favour of that argument RD. I know we don't expect sports stars to be hyperintelligent, but I have always thought that you'd need to have some sort of common sense to lead the national cricket team.

by G.Wood on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:16

Aye, a sage captain like Tugga would have bowled the quicks, then elbowed Ganguly and hoped the suspensions were concurrent

by JGK on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:25

G.Wood wrote:Aye, a sage captain like Tugga would have bowled the quicks, then elbowed Ganguly and hoped the suspensions were concurrent

Sage.

by embee on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:26

We all know that beating New Zealand is more important than keeping the Border-Gavaskunt

The song that will replace "Under the Southern Cross" at team celebrations

by Guest on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:28

Was he ever a great tactician? He had Warne there who is a cricketing genius and no doubt Warne made a lot of the decisions on the field when he played alongside Ponting...or at least had a healthy influence on what Ponting did.

Without Warne (and probably Gilchrist to an extent) Ponting has looked unimaginative and very defensive. Obviously not having Warne and McGrath's bowling skills makes the job tougher (a monkey could have captained those two and got good results) but he still has to back who he has at his disposal.

by embee on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:31

captain braindead wrote:I had Jason Krejza bowling at one end and Cameron White, who had been the number one spinner in the first three Tests, operating from the other for a couple of overs.

Is that a 'far queue' to the selectors?

by Zat on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:33

Had TGM been made captain, he'd probably still be playing, we'd probably still be winning, and TGM would probably be thinking about 1000 Test wickets.

And we probably never would have seen Cameron White picked as an alleged leg-spinner.

by Para Batsman on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 12:39

embee wrote:
captain braindead wrote:I had Jason Krejza bowling at one end and Cameron White, who had been the number one spinner in the first three Tests, operating from the other for a couple of overs.

Is that a 'far queue' to the selectors?

It will come out someday but it wouldn't surprise me if he and the powers that be differed over White's selection.

Nielsen is looking more and more foolish.Probably flared up when White got the nod over Krejka in the third test. Ponting bowled crazy continually in the fourth despite going for runs and turned his back on White.

by OP Tipping on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 13:25

I've said this before...

When RP first got the captaincy of the ODI side, he said that the job was not "rocket science".

Maybe test cricket is another matter.

Bad enough to have got us so far behind in the over rate. Bad enough to have chosen to protect himself rather than go hard for the win.

But his failure to take the criticism on the chin is worse. Take your lumps, Ricky. Be honest with yourself, at least.

by horace on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 13:41

JGK wrote:
G.Wood wrote:Aye, a sage captain like Tugga would have bowled the quicks, then elbowed Ganguly and hoped the suspensions were concurrent

Sage.

...complete tosh...Ksnr had the talent available in a well rounded team...he was a formulaic captain at best (and incredibly selfish with the the ink)

by G.Wood on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 15:52

Zat wrote:Had TGM been made captain, he'd probably still be playing, we'd probably still be winning, and TGM would probably be thinking about 1000 Test wickets.

And we probably never would have seen Cameron White picked as an alleged leg-spinner.

c0ck tease

by Bradman on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 16:42

I'm leaning towards inate stupidity rather than incompetence. Incomptence suggests you were capable of doing the job in the first place.

Cut him loose and bring back Warnie. No-one else in the side is capable and the real scary thing is once Punter retires or is arsed (let's hope it's the latter soon) the next captain will inherit an even weaker team.

This is what happens when you decide on a captain a decade out from the promotion.

Pup was being hailed a future Captain after an under 19 carnival FFS!

by horace on Mon 10 Nov 2008, 16:49

the kid has failed yet again in a pressure series

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