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Post by Henry on Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:40 pm

The Windies have just called up a specialist 'batsman' by the name of Shawn Findlay who averages just 15 in first class cricket to their ODI squad to face the Aussies. He's played just 5 list A games, as well. Sad....

Do they really think he's going to come out and flay the Aussies everywhere having shown no sign whatsoever of doing it in domestic cricket?

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Post by JKLever on Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:43 pm

Well Xavier Marshall did....

WIFAN made a good point - their domestic game is so crap they have to get to the talent earlier. A bit like how Vaughan & Tres were identified as having something about them despite their domestic performances not backing that up

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Post by Fred Nerk on Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:53 pm

JKLever wrote:Well Xavier Marshall did....

WIFAN made a good point - their domestic game is so crap they have to get to the talent earlier. A bit like how Vaughan & Tres were identified as having something about them despite their domestic performances not backing that up


Shane Warne, Ian Healy and Michael Clarke hadn't quite re-written the Oz domestic record book at the time of their first call-up either. However Matt Hayden, who made about a dozen tons in his first three years with Queensland and was one of our best-credentialled debutants ever, took seven years and three tries to establish a permenent spot.

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Re: Good grief....

Post by Fred Nerk on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:10 pm

This Findlay's averaging over 50 in List A, which allows some scope for the possibility that he's not absolutely hopeless.

And seeing as the selectors have most likely seen him bat whereas none of us have....

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Re: Good grief....

Post by Red on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:22 pm

Shaun Marsh's performances to date have belied his first class average.

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Re: Good grief....

Post by Chivalry Augustus on Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:40 am

Hardly, his ODI career has started along the same lines as his domestic one-day record; averaging 30-ish at a crabby s/r.

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Re: Good grief....

Post by Henry on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:45 am

They really should play more domestic cricket in the West Indies, and they should play it during the international season. I've never understood why the domestic season is all done and dusted before the first test of their summer has started.

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Post by PlanetPakistan on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:49 am

JKLever wrote:Well Xavier Marshall did....

WIFAN made a good point - their domestic game is so crap they have to get to the talent earlier. A bit like how Vaughan & Tres were identified as having something about them despite their domestic performances not backing that up


yeah thats how PAK use to do not sure why they don't do it now

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Post by Henry on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:51 am

If they want to pick raw talent, then I would have thought that Kieron Powell and Adrian Barath would be better bets.

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Post by PearlJ on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:53 am

Henry wrote:If they want to pick raw talent, then I would have thought that Kieron Powell and Adrian Barath would be better bets.


It's a disgrace that Barath has been over looked. He actually has a pair of FC tons which is more than a lot of the batsmen in the Windies squad can say.

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Post by Chivalry Augustus on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:00 am

Henry wrote:If they want to pick raw talent, then I would have thought that Kieron Powell and Adrian Barath would be better bets.


You don't want them to pick someone who has played five FC matches, so you advocate picking one of two eighteen year-olds with even less? I think it's very much an age thing and the Windies selectors are right not to consider any of the names mentioned. That does not, however, mean they should be picking this guy, who I've never even heard of. I'd have even picked Nash over him - bit of Aussie steel - as a specialist bat. And he's carp.

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Re: Good grief....

Post by Don't quote me on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:33 am

Findlay is from jamaica, the other call up Miller is from jamaica,

Marshall did well, but he had no pedigree, he was picked from jamaica

Daren Powell, the WI new ball bowler who has managed to average over 50 with ball in 4 of his last 5test match series and in the other series got his bowling average down to 49
is from jamaica,

Stop me when you spot the pattern

Gayle the capt of the WI is from....

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Re: Good grief....

Post by The One on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:46 am

trench town?

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Post by WIFAN on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:15 am

Don't quote me wrote:Findlay is from jamaica, the other call up Miller is from jamaica,

Marshall did well, but he had no pedigree, he was picked from jamaica

Daren Powell, the WI new ball bowler who has managed to average over 50 with ball in 4 of his last 5test match series and in the other series got his bowling average down to 49
is from jamaica,

Stop me when you spot the pattern

Gayle the capt of the WI is from....


Unfortunately you appear to be right. Particularly in Powell's case, as Gayle admitted in an interview that he was defending some players who's test careers appear to be close to and end.

Findlay is a left handed opener who has been talked about in Jamaican domestic cricket for some time as a Chris Gayle like power batsman, only he moves his feet a bit more. Now he has never proven that at domestic level so this would appear to be a Gayle pick. One thing Findlay certainly has in his favor is that he is a sensational fielder. He won a man of the match award in the KFC Cup on the basis of 3 outstanding catches and a direct hit.

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Re: Good grief....

Post by PeterCS on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:30 am

Grief is rarely good.

But it can be salutary.

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