How can umpring standards be improved?

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How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Zat on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 12:48

As promised in my post in the current Aus v WI Test thread a thread on ways to improve international umpiring standards.

I know there are some umpires who'll seemingly gun a batsman out on dubious evidence, while others seemingly won't even give the plumbest of lbws. And I've heard, even spouted forth myself with, the 'bad decisions even out n the end' theory. But realistically, the ICC has to look at a simple system with umpires.

Maybe removing the 'neutral umpires' requirement, ranking them publicly, and then allowing the competing sides to choose one each from the available list, would work. It would send a pretty clear message to the ICC if one of the blokes on the panel was consistently left on the sidelines. I know the system I've put forward isn't perfect, but really, something needs to be done. Even accepting that the 'challenges' system is set to be trialled soon, wouldn't it be better to have fewer occasions for it to be used?

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Henry on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 13:10

Shoot the lot of 'em.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Fred Nerk on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 13:23

Trev's idea wouldn't make things any worse.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by PearlJ on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 13:26

The mentioned it on ABC today. Get rid of the oldies...... and put plenty more of the young guys in. It's no suprise that the 2 youngest umpires, Dar and Taufel are the 2 best.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by tac on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 14:25

Ban India!

And broaden the punishment for bringing the game into disrepute to include shiteful commentators what go on and on and farkin on about umpiring decisions . . . .


People need to rememeber that no one performs at their best when their abilities are constantly being questioned and confidence undermined . . .


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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by PearlJ on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 14:26

tac wrote:Ban India!


That seems to be the solution to a lot of problems.....

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by JGK on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 15:42

Are there any umpires from India on the elite panel?

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by doremi on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 16:27

Make them watch Ashoka deSilva videos. They should have a pretty good idea what not to do as umpires then.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Henry on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 17:34

As has been mentioned, get rid of all the old fogies. Bucknor is far too old, as is Koertzen. Pretty much all of the elite panel umpires are in their 50's (Bucknor and Koertzen are in their 60's). It's no coincidence that the younger umpires are also the better one's, and it's a fact that the senses of a 60 year old are inferior to those of a 35 year old. In what other sport is there umpires that are well over 50? Lawn bowls?

Make 55 the age limit for international umpires, increase their pay, but make the consequences of their mistakes more severe.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by skully on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 17:36

tac wrote:And broaden the punishment for bringing the game into disrepute to include shiteful commentators what go on and on and farkin on about umpiring decisions . . . .

Can I nominate Mikey Holding (whenever the Windies are playing - I actually think he's WIFAN), Ravi Shastri and Tony Grieg for this category.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Henry on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 17:41

A poor umpiring decision is a poor umpiring decision. What are they meant to do? Ignore it?

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Invader Zim on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 17:58

Henry wrote:A poor umpiring decision is a poor umpiring decision. What are they meant to do? Ignore it?

Refer to my signature.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by skully on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 18:00

Bwahahaha. Whining about it incessantly just p!sses the listeners off. Just like your incessant whining does to people on this forum.

India sooked until the cows came home about umpiring and absolutely disgracefully got an international umpire removed from a Test appointment prior to a Test by threatening to go home. And what do we ultimately get? Russell Tiffin added back on the panel. Well played India.


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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by Henry on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 18:05

India sooked until the cows came home about umpiring and absolutely disgracefully got an international umpire removed from a Test appointment prior to a Test by threatening to go home. And what do we ultimately get? Russell Tiffin added back on the panel. Well played India.


Bucknor is still on the elite panel, so how did India cause Tiffin to be called up? And lets not get back into this argument, but Bucknor had been robbing India for years. I'd like to see how the Aussies and their fans would have reacted if they received the same amount of bad decisions as their opponents do.

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Re: How can umpring standards be improved?

Post by embee on Mon 02 Jun 2008, 18:09

Put Trev on the elite panel ...being so young and with a knowledge of everything he must be the best umpire in the world...

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