Stuart Broad - stick or twist?

No denying he hasn't looked very threatening with the ball in these 2 home tests but would you stick with him?

I actually like his attitude on the field and his allround good eggness. I think he'll get better the more he plays too with more experience - certainly he's a cut above the likes of Plunkett to my eyes of those bowlers who've been picked on 'potential' rather than their current stock.

Just don't think he and Jimmy can be in the same side. And as much as I think Anderson is total gubbins and bowled a crock of shit at OT, others said he bowled really well (BS if you ask me!) he has taken 10 wickets so far this series....

I agree about his attitude, and you feel that he has to start producing the results at some stage, but when? Take away the good attitude, and we're left with the facts- He's not express pace, he doesn't really swing the ball, and he's not particularly accurate. There's no real x factor about his bowling, imo. If you look at his first class record, it isn't all that special- FC average of around 30 if I remember correctly, and that too having played most of his cricket in the 2nd division. Mcgrath should be the type of bowler that he models himself on, but he's got a long way to go. On the plus side, he at least manages to stay on the park most of the time.

Give him one more chance at TB, and if he continues to dissapoint, send him back to Notts for the rest of the summer to work on a few things.

He needs 'man weight'. Maybe he should try the Shoaib/Asif route? ATM, he does lollipop the ball a bit. Shocker in the 2nd innings - although he was only used for 4 overs. Putting his First innings bowling into context, could've had a bag in between the buffet balls. Seems like we'll always struggle with both Broad and Jimmy in the team.

A couple of seasons at Notts, perhaps some Aussie cricket in the winter, and then he'll be back and better in my opinion.

I want him to make it but it's clear he is the weak link in the England bowling line-up. On the plus side his batting has been useful and he has a quicker delivery now that wasn't there until recently.

Onions and Harmi may feel they deserve Broad's place.

Onions and Harmi may feel they deserve Broad's place.

Go and wash your mouth out with highly toxic soap.

Brass Monkey wrote:Maybe he should try the Shoaib/Asif route?

Do you mean put the bowlers on crack or let them punch eachother in the arm?

leg glancer wrote:

Brass Monkey wrote:Maybe he should try the Shoaib/Asif route?

Do you mean put the bowlers on crack or let them punch eachother in the arm?

Steroids. **ahem** I mean 'exercising too much'.

He's the only young fast bowler in England with a bit of the 'F*ck you, i'm gonna get you' attitude. Jonah is another one, and Mahmood is to an extent as well.

You can't keep pasengers just because they might come good 6 months or 1 year down the line. It comes down to whether or not there's somebody better than him, and if there is, back to Nottinghamshire you go (Yee-Ha!).

I keep reading this thread title as, "Stuart Broad - stink or twit?"

Needs to fix his action. It's still a work a progress, which is a bit of a concern as he's essentially a defensive bowler - back of a length, outside off, ball after ball, maiden after maiden. That's how he's going to take his wickets, by boring batsmen out. Modelled himself on McGrath. Not Anthony.

But he doesn't have the control to make that happen at the moment, so plan A is no good.

I'm not sure there's scope for a plan B - he's not quick and not particularly hostile and doesn't move the ball a great deal. Bounce and accuracy are his friends. But he lacks the latter.

Strange that his seam position is pretty good from what i've seen and yet he gets very little movement of the deck as well.

Could point to him not hitting the pitch hard enough, and although being tall, as has been pointed out on here, his bounce is because of his height, kind of slowish and not as steepling as it could be due to a lack of ummph in his action with his left side!

Strange because he bounced out 2 numpties in the last test in NZ where he bowled well.

JKLever wrote:Strange because he bounced out 2 numpties in the last test in NZ where he bowled well.

Numpties especially. It may be a rythmn thing. But he certainly looked as if he had lollipop bounce compared to even Anderson!?