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Post by Henry on Sun 25 May 2008, 23:58

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/352518.html




'Among the ideas being mooted are, according to today's Guardian, a 21-team Twenty20 league and a revamped Pro40 competition of two 20-over innings per side, as well as a return to the three-day Championship. Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'





I will be spewing if this happens. Surely they can see that this will be a huge step backwards?

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by Batman on Mon 26 May 2008, 00:23

Batman wrote:So what next? Tests in T20 format? Each team getting 2 innings of 20 overs each to prove their 'skills'?

Huzzah for one day tests.....


I knew I spoke a bit too soon in the other thread.....
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Post by Nath on Mon 26 May 2008, 00:48

So why do they still play a 40 over competition? (aside from tradition)

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by JKLever on Mon 26 May 2008, 01:20

Money.

Basically everyone knows it'll be the first competition to go.

Agree with Mudge, a return to 3 day cricket would be a disaster

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by JKLever on Mon 26 May 2008, 01:23

Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'


Interesting way of getting less games but not convinced the turkeys will vote for Xmas.

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Post by filosofee on Mon 26 May 2008, 01:34

JKLever wrote:
Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'


Interesting way of getting less games but not convinced the turkeys will vote for Xmas.


TMS just said the Eurovision contest would be more meaningful.

Agree that a a three-way India-Pak-England contest in England would be exciting, for us Paksters!

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by beamer on Mon 26 May 2008, 01:42

JKLever wrote:
Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'


Interesting way of getting less games but not convinced the turkeys will vote for Xmas.

There must be very little money in the Championship anyway, most matches are attended by one man and his dog aren't they? Not sure the number of games would make that much difference.

I can't see regional conferences being a good idea, that will prevent the better teams playing each other as we have with the current two division setup. Three merit-based divisions of six with one promotion and relegation between them each year would be better, at least it would concentrate the talent at the top.

We have to keep four-day cricket though, or even go up to five-day, to prepare players for Test cricket. Three-day cricket (particularly with the English weather) produces nothing but contrived results with farcical declarations and joke bowling.

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by lardbucket on Mon 26 May 2008, 02:34

beamer wrote:
JKLever wrote:
Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'


Interesting way of getting less games but not convinced the turkeys will vote for Xmas.

There must be very little money in the Championship anyway, most matches are attended by one man and his dog aren't they? Not sure the number of games would make that much difference.

I can't see regional conferences being a good idea, that will prevent the better teams playing each other as we have with the current two division setup. Three merit-based divisions of six with one promotion and relegation between them each year would be better, at least it would concentrate the talent at the top.

We have to keep four-day cricket though, or even go up to five-day, to prepare players for Test cricket. Three-day cricket (particularly with the English weather) produces nothing but contrived results with farcical declarations and joke bowling.


Sayonara to spinners and middle-order batsmen ...

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by taipan on Mon 26 May 2008, 02:56

lardbucket wrote:
beamer wrote:
JKLever wrote:
Perhaps most notable is the plan to divide the Championship into three conferences, with southern, midland and northern divisions.'


Interesting way of getting less games but not convinced the turkeys will vote for Xmas.

There must be very little money in the Championship anyway, most matches are attended by one man and his dog aren't they? Not sure the number of games would make that much difference.

I can't see regional conferences being a good idea, that will prevent the better teams playing each other as we have with the current two division setup. Three merit-based divisions of six with one promotion and relegation between them each year would be better, at least it would concentrate the talent at the top.

We have to keep four-day cricket though, or even go up to five-day, to prepare players for Test cricket. Three-day cricket (particularly with the English weather) produces nothing but contrived results with farcical declarations and joke bowling.


Sayonara to spinners and middle-order batsmen ...


So no change then?

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by Basil on Mon 26 May 2008, 04:41

The three conference idea is as daft as Jack Simmons' plan to bring back the three day game and should be smothered at birth. Three divisions of six with promotion and relegation is the way to go. Maybe with a play-off to decide the champions.

The Pro40 is a piece of nonsense - no-one else plays it. At the very least it should become a straight knockout, to shoehorn the matches into a four week period. The better solution would be to do away with it altogether.

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by HH_pink on Mon 26 May 2008, 05:49

I thought the title read "ECB to ponder racial domestic charges".

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by lardbucket on Mon 26 May 2008, 06:00

Won't they just scrap Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Glamorgan and transfer their players into less risible playing outfits?

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by Henry on Mon 26 May 2008, 06:16

lardbucket wrote:Won't they just scrap Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Glamorgan and transfer their players into less risible playing outfits?


Because their chairmen will come up with all sorts of legal reasons as to why it can't happen. And also because any proposal of change in English cricket is voted on by the counties themselves. In other words, the tail wags the dog.

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by Basil on Mon 26 May 2008, 09:46

lardbucket wrote:Won't they just scrap Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Glamorgan and transfer their players into less risible playing outfits?


Retention of the eighteen counties is enshrined in the ECB's constitution. Care to guess as to who can vote to change it? Wink

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Re: ECB to ponder radical domestic changes

Post by Invader Zim on Mon 26 May 2008, 14:08

Been saying it for years...remove FC status for Division two...relegation and promotion will suddenly mean something.

If Australia can produce enough players to fill a Test XI with 6 FC teams, surely England can with 8.

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