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Post by taipan on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 00:21

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Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.

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Post by seasider on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 00:24

JKLever wrote:Although i'm pretty sure I did hear an interview with Chris Read that he wouldn't be going back to IPL because he would be banned from county cricket in future?



When the English players went last time they played before this ban came in, so at the time there was nothing to stop them. Banning them is like saying the speed limit is now 20mph in built up areas and we are going to prosecute everyone who drove at 30mph last year as well.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by seasider on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 00:25

taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.


But not county cricket because of thetrade laws in the European Union.

The ECB tried to ban them originally but some Counties took legal advice and the ECB had to relent as the Kolpaks are also protected by EU law.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by taipan on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 00:31

seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.


But not county cricket because of thetrade laws in the European Union.

The ECB tried to ban them originally but some Counties took legal advice and the ECB had to relent as the Kolpaks are also protected by EU law.


So how can English players be banned?

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by seasider on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 01:30

taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.


But not county cricket because of thetrade laws in the European Union.

The ECB tried to ban them originally but some Counties took legal advice and the ECB had to relent as the Kolpaks are also protected by EU law.


So how can English players be banned?


English players are not banned. Nobody in England beit English or Kolpak is banned as a result of the ICL.

In the future they maybe.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by lardbucket on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 01:31

What about India? Can they be banned?

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by taipan on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 01:34

seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.


But not county cricket because of thetrade laws in the European Union.

The ECB tried to ban them originally but some Counties took legal advice and the ECB had to relent as the Kolpaks are also protected by EU law.


So how can English players be banned?


English players are not banned. Nobody in England beit English or Kolpak is banned as a result of the ICL.

In the future they maybe.


I meant in the future. I don't see how it could be done in view of existing legislation.

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Post by seasider on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 01:38

taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
taipan wrote:
seasider wrote:
Ross wrote:Is CA the only board that bans their players from domestic cricket too? Read, Slogdonki and Nixon play in the ICL and I think they're still allowed to play for their counties.


They are allowed to play for their Counties because banning them would be classed as restrain of trade by our rigorous employment laws.

This seems to be something that most other countries can't get their heads round.


SA players such as Klusener, Boje and Van der Wath are banned from SA domestic cricket.


But not county cricket because of thetrade laws in the European Union.

The ECB tried to ban them originally but some Counties took legal advice and the ECB had to relent as the Kolpaks are also protected by EU law.


So how can English players be banned?


English players are not banned. Nobody in England beit English or Kolpak is banned as a result of the ICL.

In the future they maybe.


I meant in the future. I don't see how it could be done in view of existing legislation.


Dunno to be honest. I just know that they couldn't be banned retrospectively.

I guess that the competition rules could be altered to incorporate 'unauthorised' competitions, but quite how that would stand up in a court of law with regards to restraint of trade, I couldn't begin to imagine.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by JKLever on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 02:08

So, as I said before - why is Read not playing ICL - he said it was because he would be banned?

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by taipan on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 02:09

JKLever wrote:So, as I said before - why is Read not playing ICL - he said it was because he would be banned?


maybe he was dropped.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by JKLever on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 02:13

Nope - said he was offered a new contract but that if he signed he wouldn't be able to play county cricket.

Maybe he's talking sh!t..

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Post by brockley on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 11:34

Heard ryan campbell signed for ICL.Will join jimmy mahers' club

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by skully on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 11:35

God, it really is the geriatric league. AB, Goochie and Gary Kirsten will be pulling the pads on for ICL before long.

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Re: Martyn and Kasprowicz join ICL

Post by JKLever on Tue 23 Sep 2008, 12:38

skully wrote:God, it really is the geriatric league. AB, Goochie and Gary Kirsten will be pulling the pads on for ICL before long.


Beach cricket organizers have been contacted by the BCCI and told them to ban them immediately!

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