I don't want to be treating you for stroke or heart attack

low G. I = pulses, brown rice, corn etc.

By the way, Zatty, does the doc have you jogging around the block half a dozen times every morning as well?

Zat - All I can say is good luck! I hope your condition improves and quality of life is not given too much of a beating.

Jebus. A sad day that would be. F*ck it off. Just eat what you want.

Actually a few days before a friend said that he had triglyceride levels of 350 despite being on a completely vegetarian, low G. I diet. His wife was very serious in restraining his diet etc and despite that it TGL didn't come down. It's then that the doctor suspected diabetes and checked insulin and bingo the fasting sugar levels were above normal.

Batfink Begins wrote:Jebus. A sad day that would be. F*ck it off. Just eat what you want.

Get stuffed, Danny. This world needs the Zatster.

taipan wrote:Crumpet is non fattening

Indeed. I normally lose a bit of weight after an encounter with a nice bit of crumpet.

Zat wrote:So said my doctor this morning.

Despite major dietary efforts for the last two years, I've got hypertriglyceridemia - which is a form of high cholesterol, apparently.

And to go with the doctor's words, here's what's now on the 'Foods to avoid' list:

• Whole eggs, egg yolks
  
• Whole milk and its products - butter, cream, cheese, ice-cream, yoghurt, condensed milk
  
• Brains, liver, pate, liverwurst, kidney, sweetbread
  
• Prawns, squid (calamari), fish roe, caviar, fish 'fingers', canned fish in oil (eg sardines)
  
• Fatty meats - bacon, ham, sausages, salami, canned meats, pressed meats, meat pastes, hamburger mince
  
• Duck, goose, skin of chicken and turkey, pressed chicken
  
• Pies, pasties, pastries, cakes, doughnuts, biscuits
  
• Fried chicken, chips, fish, dim sims, spring rolls, etc., hot dogs, pizzas, fried rice
  
• Cashews, macadamia nuts, cocnut, roasted nuts, brazil nuts, peanuts, peanut butter (Can have in very small amounts)
  
• Gravies, potato chips, caramel, chocolate (including carob), butterscotch, 'health food' bars, fudge, coffee whitener and other cream substitutes, toasted breakast cereals (especially with coconut)
  
• Saturated fats - lard, dripping, suet, copha, cooking (hard) margarine, coconut and palm oils, mayonnaise
  
• Fried foods, foods roasted in fat.
  

Wow. I'm looking forawrd to living on trhe cardboard boxes all the foods I like are packed in.

There is an accompanying list of 'Suitable foods' but it's just too depressing.

Commiserations Zoggy. I too have high triglycerides. I went on the cardboard diet and it made fark all difference to my numbers over a 6 month period. So I fixed the problem by neglecting to have any more blood tests. I eat sensibly but be farked if I'm gonna give up all of life's pleasures and be picking Visy products out of my teeth for the rest of my life. A rollicking 75 years p!sses all over a tediously fastidious 80 years. [clinks red wine glass]

Well, thanks all for the nice words.

As the levels were basically off the chart - despite a pretty good (not exceptional) diet, the doc's words were a bit of a surprise. There's no diabetes, tests for that were normal.

The diet is something I'll have to live with.

I'm also on pills to bring it down.

But let me say this, Friday night, I'm off to the pub for what will probably be a last blast for quite a while!

And one thing that amused me was that they had the courtesy on the 'bad' list to include chocolate, but also had the decency to say that f*cking awful 'health nazi' product carob on it as well.

Zatty,

That list takes everything that is good in the world out of your diet....

Stick to it though mate, and then once your back on the chart again, it'll all taste so much better!

It'll be a cheap blow out at those prices at the RSL though mind.

Holcs, rest assured, I'll drink what you should have had when you passed through here! Just wish we could have caught up.

Someone mentioned exercise, and yep, that's now to be a regular feature of the day. The exercise bike has been pulled out of the cupboard. Be rooted if I'm going for a walk around the block during summer in Wagga. It's been mild this week, but high 30s are much more common.

Zat wrote:Holcs, rest assured, I'll drink what you should have had when you passed through here! Just wish we could have caught up.

Someone mentioned exercise, and yep, that's now to be a regular feature of the day. The exercise bike has been pulled out of the cupboard. Be rooted if I'm going for a walk around the block during summer in Wagga. It's been mild this week, but high 30s are much more common.

Yeah would've been good, although not sure your RSL would've been too happy to have been invaded by 17 beer thirsty poms, with a fines meeting to conduct....

Your not wrong there. Just walking around the boundary in Hay was bad enough. And that was high 30's when we were ther. Luckily though we had a massive thunderstorm the night before the came, which cleared the air a bit.

Zat, last year I had a Pain in my chest. The heart specialist told me after the ECG that was a 95% probabilty I had angina and he would have to insert up to 4 stents.

After he did the angioplasy he closed me up and said there was nothing wrong.

Maybe a 2nd opinion might be in order.

Nah, you're just a heartless barsteward, taips.

skully wrote:Nah, you're just a heartless barsteward, taips.

Ah, that explains it.