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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/552462.html
Ajmal had apparently suggested that he was allowed 23.5 degrees of flexion or extension when bowling by the ICC - rather than the limit of 15 - but the Pakistan board said this figure included the angle of Ajmal's elbow joint, which was affected by an accident some years ago.
And to quote David Lloyd, my backside's a fire engine.
Ajmal had apparently suggested that he was allowed 23.5 degrees of flexion or extension when bowling by the ICC - rather than the limit of 15 - but the Pakistan board said this figure included the angle of Ajmal's elbow joint, which was affected by an accident some years ago.
And to quote David Lloyd, my backside's a fire engine.

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At least he admitted that his arm is bent more than 15 degrees.

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And despite all that, the ICC is defending him, blaming the fact that English isn't his first language. They are seriously weak.

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At least they didn't say he had a deformed elbow... Oh

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His first language isn't English though and I've heard him get his words a bit jumbled before - I'm not sure how he actually meant to articulate his point, but I'm certain that's not how it was intended.
To me, it's not up to him to explain himself, it's the ICC and they were incredibly indignant about his action not being properly assessed and whether they would do in the future. What rankles is that it's distinctly possible that when they tested him in 2009 he was just about OK and has since worsened through no particular fault of his own, just bad habits.
I suppose, as with Murali, we'll just have to move on. It doesn't in any way compliment us that he's dodgy... Rehman made us look like sh!tty-nappied little wankers as well.
To me, it's not up to him to explain himself, it's the ICC and they were incredibly indignant about his action not being properly assessed and whether they would do in the future. What rankles is that it's distinctly possible that when they tested him in 2009 he was just about OK and has since worsened through no particular fault of his own, just bad habits.
I suppose, as with Murali, we'll just have to move on. It doesn't in any way compliment us that he's dodgy... Rehman made us look like sh!tty-nappied little wankers as well.

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Hafeez would have made England's batsmen look shite if he bowled enough, but that's another point.

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Impossible to get a grip on the chucking issue unless there's a way to test people in match conditions. Otherwise people can bowl whatever they want in the testing room and go into a match bowling something completely different. Whether that's deliberate or tiredness, searching for extra spin etc..

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I don't give a flying sh!t whether his English is crap or not.
It's time the useless feckers at the ICC make a definitive statement on this issue.
Either everyone can chuck or no one can chuck. At the moment it seems to be reserved to subbie chuckers, and I don't really care whether this is construed as racist or not.
It's time the useless feckers at the ICC make a definitive statement on this issue.
Either everyone can chuck or no one can chuck. At the moment it seems to be reserved to subbie chuckers, and I don't really care whether this is construed as racist or not.

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Not racist at all.
Subbie bowlers DO chuck.
Fact.
And whats more ... they get away with it.
And whats even more .... they are ALLOWED to get away with it.
Why?
Because the ICC are both a. lacking the balls to adhere to the spirit of the game ... and b. because the ICC are, in the main, riddled with bag carrying Subbies in the first place .... which allows EVERY tolerance of their bowlers ... whether it be at 15 degrees or 27.5 degrees off the norm. Evidence is riddled with anomalies and are cut in order to suit the cloth, experiments are conducted secretively, and the results are published with grand acceptance as reality.
Which is absolute bollocks.
Murali and now Adjmal ... both blatant throwers of the ball ... and why can't they be called for it?
because of "deformities" and "accidents" that just happen to happen ... and once they're past taking 100 illegal international wickets, they are considered as accepted - with no further investigation deemed necessary!
Which is also absolute bollocks.
It's a very sensitive point this ... the fear that the ICC have of exposing blatant subbie cheats who throw the ball disguised as an act of "bowling " it ..... is mortifying .... and no one says a bloody thing.
Now if that's construed as racist - they can go f**k themselves.
Subbie bowlers DO chuck.
Fact.
And whats more ... they get away with it.
And whats even more .... they are ALLOWED to get away with it.
Why?
Because the ICC are both a. lacking the balls to adhere to the spirit of the game ... and b. because the ICC are, in the main, riddled with bag carrying Subbies in the first place .... which allows EVERY tolerance of their bowlers ... whether it be at 15 degrees or 27.5 degrees off the norm. Evidence is riddled with anomalies and are cut in order to suit the cloth, experiments are conducted secretively, and the results are published with grand acceptance as reality.
Which is absolute bollocks.
Murali and now Adjmal ... both blatant throwers of the ball ... and why can't they be called for it?
because of "deformities" and "accidents" that just happen to happen ... and once they're past taking 100 illegal international wickets, they are considered as accepted - with no further investigation deemed necessary!
Which is also absolute bollocks.
It's a very sensitive point this ... the fear that the ICC have of exposing blatant subbie cheats who throw the ball disguised as an act of "bowling " it ..... is mortifying .... and no one says a bloody thing.
Now if that's construed as racist - they can go f**k themselves.

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It's gone too far now. The oly solution was for the players themselves to refuse to play against blatant cheats but that might affect their IPL contracts.
Is there anyone with a modicum of decency left in the game?
Is there anyone with a modicum of decency left in the game?

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One would hope that someone with the stature of Richie would come out and say "enough is enough".
But where are all the ex captains of stature? Talking shite on sky and nine..
But where are all the ex captains of stature? Talking shite on sky and nine..

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I'm surprised Nasser hasn't said something on air. He openly called Murali a "f*cking chucker" in the middle of a test match in Sri Lanka in 2003.
Granted, those exact words in relation to Ajmal, on live TV, might be going a bit far, but he's usually the type to call it as he sees it. "India have too many donkeys in the field....India aren't a very good team Ravi Shastri" etc.....
Granted, those exact words in relation to Ajmal, on live TV, might be going a bit far, but he's usually the type to call it as he sees it. "India have too many donkeys in the field....India aren't a very good team Ravi Shastri" etc.....

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Nasser doesn't have the balls

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Bollocks......

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He's too sacred of losing this contract and anyway has no real stature in the game.

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