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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 20:10

And the twats again bat Buttler down at six. Only England would push a hard hitting one day batsman DOWN the order after two blazing hundreds.

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Post by tricycle on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 20:16

He's 40 off 23 according to cricinfo, the plans are coming to fruition.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Basil on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 20:18

Henry wrote:And the twats again bat Buttler down at six. Only England would push a hard hitting one day batsman DOWN the order after two blazing hundreds.


Unless the England hierarchy envisage Buttler batting at six in the forthcoming ODIs - then it makes sense.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Sun 05 Feb 2012, 20:18

He could have been 100 of 63 by now if they'd batted him higher up, and England would have 50 more runs than they do now.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Dello on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:30

Lions take the 5-match series 3-2.

This winter's solitary crumb of comfort.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:37

It's time they started noticing some of the guys who performed here- Buttler, Briggs.....even Jack Brooks.

Is Meaker injured?

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Dello on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:42

Meaker pulled out of the Lions tour with a lower back injury - sounds like he's targeting the start of the county season, so don't expect to see him in England colours this winter.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Brass Monkey on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:48

Henry wrote:It's time they started noticing some of the guys who performed here- Buttler, Briggs.....even Jack Brooks.

Is Meaker injured?


Jack Brooks has less than 20 List 'A' wickets to his name.

Briggs... depends really... Do you want to drop Swann? Add Monty? how many overs do you want Sammy Fat to bowl? Do you want SFat even in your team?

I don't think anyone can deny Buttler a spot, scary that no-one's mentioned Hales really though.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:57

I think in Sri Lanka, they could play Swann and Briggs in the same team. From what i've seen Briggs is miles better in the field than Monty, and a tad better with the bat as well.

My ODI squad would be-

Cook(c)
Hales
Pietersen
Buttler
Morgan
Kieswetter
Bairstow
Patel
Broad
Swann
Briggs
Finn
Onions
Buck
Brooks

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Chivalry Augustus on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 00:59

Brass Monkey wrote:
Henry wrote:It's time they started noticing some of the guys who performed here- Buttler, Briggs.....even Jack Brooks.

Is Meaker injured?


Jack Brooks has less than 20 List 'A' wickets to his name.

Briggs... depends really... Do you want to drop Swann? Add Monty? how many overs do you want Sammy Fat to bowl? Do you want SFat even in your team?

I don't think anyone can deny Buttler a spot, scary that no-one's mentioned Hales really though.


Hales has a massive problem converting. He has reached double figures in every one-day innings for the Lions this winter, but didn't make a hundred. That said, as an opening batsman, these figures aren't bad at all:

329 runs @ 41.25, strike-rate 92.67

Buttler, Hales and Kieswetter were the three best batsmen on this tour for the Lions, in that order (in terms of runs scored and averages, although Hales has the lowest strike-rate at 94). You'd have to say that Buttler at 4 and Kieswetter at 5 looks potentially very destructive for England. Pietersen at 6, Trott at 3? Samit Patel at 7? Cook and Hales to open? Doesn't sound terrible to me.


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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Brass Monkey on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 01:05

Chivalry Augustus wrote:
Hales has a massive problem converting. He has reached double figures in every one-day innings for the Lions this winter, but didn't make a hundred. That said, as an opening batsman, these figures aren't bad at all:

329 runs @ 41.25, strike-rate 92.67

Buttler, Hales and Kieswetter were the three best batsmen on this tour for the Lions, in that order (in terms of runs scored and averages, although Hales has the lowest strike-rate at 94). You'd have to say that Buttler at 4 and Kieswetter at 5 looks potentially very destructive for England. Pietersen at 6, Trott at 3? Samit Patel at 7? Cook and Hales to open? Doesn't sound terrible to me.



Ideally, you'd have Pietersen and Hales opening the batting, IMO. But we'll have at least two batsmen capable of wasting 5 or 6 PP overs between them. I don't think they'll ever have that many dashers in there and there's no way they'll drop Morgan.

I don't reckon we can squeeze all of Briggs, Patel and Swann in. Now Broad's back, I'd rather someone who can be trusted for 10, so I'd go with Briggs probably. Buck is easily strolling backwards into my team.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 01:09

Yeah I agree that if Pietersen is going to be in the ODI side, he should open. He's a walking wicket on the Sub Continent against the spinners.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Henry on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 01:10

Ah sh*t, but we have to play Cook seeing as he's captain. And he can only open.

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Re: England Lions tour of the Bangles

Post by Brass Monkey on Mon 06 Feb 2012, 01:15

Henry wrote:Ah sh*t, but we have to play Cook seeing as he's captain. And he can only open.


Exactly the point I was making. And he's incredibly sh!t. I remember Gaz giving it big because in our home ODIs against India, they were feeding him halfish trackers wide of off that he could cut all day - I said he'd stink on the SubC and so far I've been proven right. I said something about Bell being gash as well..........

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